What has your experience been with NPP?

[MxxC82]

So what compounds and doses did you decide to use?

Not quite sure if that question was directed toward me or not.

Starting last week I bumped my test C up to 200mg/wk and started NPP at 80mg M/W/F.

Only going up 50mg on test has increased my mood slightly for the past 4 days, I’m gonna go on up in mg’s on my weekly pin come Wednesday, as far as the NPP goes, too early to tell so I’m going on up to 100mg’s M/W/F and stick with a total of 300mg/wk and run with it unless I get any crazy sides from it at which I’ll drop immediately if so… only thing I’ve noticed is that my pin sites with the NPP stay sore for a few days, and I’m pinning delts since it’s just 1/2cc anyway, been a good while since I’ve pinned delts so that may be the reasoning behind the soreness, no redness or burning. I pin glutes and thighs with test due to more meat and larger doses.

 

[Dentdude]

Not quite sure if that question was directed toward me or not.

Starting last week I bumped my test C up to 200mg/wk and started NPP at 80mg M/W/F.

Only going up 50mg on test has increased my mood slightly for the past 4 days, I’m gonna go on up in mg’s on my weekly pin come Wednesday, as far as the NPP goes, too early to tell so I’m going on up to 100mg’s M/W/F and stick with a total of 300mg/wk and run with it unless I get any crazy sides from it at which I’ll drop immediately if so… only thing I’ve noticed is that my pin sites with the NPP stay sore for a few days, and I’m pinning delts since it’s just 1/2cc anyway, been a good while since I’ve pinned delts so that may be the reasoning behind the soreness, no redness or burning. I pin glutes and thighs with test due to more meat and larger doses.

Yes was directly to both of you guys, out of curiosity, to see what you ended up running with. I’ve gotten sore everytime I’ve pinned in my delts no matter the amount lol sounds like you got it figured out good luck buddy

 

[MxxC82]

Yes was directly to both of you guys, out of curiosity, to see what you ended up running with. I’ve gotten sore everytime I’ve pinned in my delts no matter the amount lol sounds like you got it figured out good luck buddy

I’ll post up later in this cycle with an update on my end and any progress or neg’s, I’ve read different things on running higher amounts of test with NPP dosages, ideally I should have just kicked off with the higher test mg’s to begin with seeing as if I’ve never had bad results with it, but stacking with something new I feel better running the lower end of the spectrum for now. I was also advised to start out the NPP with a conservative dose and take it up to 300mg’s/wk, one more week at 240mg and I’ll hit 300 if things are good

 

[Dentdude]

I’ll post up later in this cycle with an update on my end and any progress or neg’s, I’ve read different things on running higher amounts of test with NPP dosages, ideally I should have just kicked off with the higher test mg’s to begin with seeing as if I’ve never had bad results with it, but stacking with something new I feel better running the lower end of the spectrum for now. I was also advised to start out the NPP with a conservative dose and take it up to 300mg’s/wk, one more week at 240mg and I’ll hit 300 if things are good

Are you keeping the rest at 200 or raising it at the same rate?

 

[MxxC82]

Are you keeping the rest at 200 or raising it at the same rate?

I’ll bump the test up to 250mg/wk after one more week of NPP at 240mg/wk. Just want to make sure my body is good with the NPP ya know. Some will say to just go full on from the start, I’d prefer to be conservative, and if I have good results with it I’ll most definitely run it again next summer! And, for whatever reason I get some negs from it this go I will just drop it and combat anything and bump the test up to 300mg/wk and get to the finish line and back it back down to 150mg which is my TRT dose.. and this all also depends on what my panel looks like, I’ll hit up labcorp for some blood work so I don’t raise flags with my TRT doc

 

[Dentdude]

Nice. I like the conservative start. Are you taking any ai at that dose?

 

[MxxC82]

Nice. I like the conservative start. Are you taking any ai at that dose?

Running 1mg Adex/wk, that’s it.

 

[Mutt]

Just did some digging online. Looks like NPP does raise hematocrit. I'm gonna have to watch that.

It did raise my hematocrit and rbc, I ran 200 mg per week with test, it did nothing for me.
My BT had my test lvls around 1650 ng

 

[someguy22922]

Nand prop > NPP > Deca for me. The bloat is just too much on the slower esters. Your mileage may vary.

Excellent strength gains.

Deca is better for joints IME. Nand prop the worst.

Nand prop has the least bloat and is in and out fast.

 

[MxxC82]

Following up on my comment from a couple months back. I ended up dropping the NPP off early, I was having some terrible headaches that I think stemmed from the use of it and it had my blood pressure all over the place, my body didn't agree with it. I will add, I did send a sample off to Janoshik and results came back 100% and the dosage was spot on, also make sure to keep it stored at a temp at or above 70 degrees... I don't know if it was the carrier oil or what, but mine started to turn to jelly around 67 degrees, stick it under warm running water and back to clear again, apparently it is an extremely mild climate compound.

 

[CJ]

Following up on my comment from a couple months back. I ended up dropping the NPP off early, I was having some terrible headaches that I think stemmed from the use of it and it had my blood pressure all over the place, my body didn't agree with it. I will add, I did send a sample off to Janoshik and results came back 100% and the dosage was spot on, also make sure to keep it stored at a temp at or above 70 degrees... I don't know if it was the carrier oil or what, but mine started to turn to jelly around 67 degrees, stick it under warm running water and back to clear again, apparently it is an extremely mild climate compound.

Care to share who you bought it from, and the Janoshik test, to help out others?

 

[MxxC82]

Care to share who you bought it from, and the Janoshik test, to help out others?

Honestly, I do not mind sharing, Janoshik emailed me a link to view the results and honestly I do not know how to save it as a file on my computer to edit out my personal info and share it here..

As far as sharing the source, I will gladly do it if I am not breaking any forum rules by doing so. Let me know and I'll put it in a following reply

 

[MxxC82]

To follow up on the source I used for the Durabolin (NPP)

usroids

The web address recently changed to DOTcom

If you are shopping domestic most all of their products are tested and results are posted, their testing source differs from Janoshik on certain products but are listed with the item, I chose to send my oils off anyway but the results were 100% for what I got

The test result for the NPP will be posted shortly

 

[CJ]

To follow up on the source I used for the Durabolin (NPP)

usroids

The web address recently changed to DOTcom

If you are shopping domestic most all of their products are tested and results are posted, their testing source differs from Janoshik on certain products but are listed with the item, I chose to send my oils off anyway but the results were 100% for what I got

The test result for the NPP will be posted shortly

I'm posting the results for him, but I redacted his personal info and the Task Number and Unique Key, because that will show his personal info. I have the numbers, and I verified it myself at Jano and took this screenshot and edited it.

Do not take this as my endorsement of a source, it's merely passing along testing information for anyone who might be interested.

My intent is only to protect @MxxC82 's anonymity.

 

[Mutt]

Following up on my comment from a couple months back. I ended up dropping the NPP off early, I was having some terrible headaches that I think stemmed from the use of it and it had my blood pressure all over the place, my body didn't agree with it. I will add, I did send a sample off to Janoshik and results came back 100% and the dosage was spot on, also make sure to keep it stored at a temp at or above 70 degrees... I don't know if it was the carrier oil or what, but mine started to turn to jelly around 67 degrees, stick it under warm running water and back to clear again, apparently it is an extremely mild climate compound.

My NPP became painful after the 10th week, then it crystallized. I had it tested and it came back 100%. I ended up throwing it in the garbage. It did not feel anything close to Deca.

 

[MxxC82]

My NPP became painful after the 10th week, then it crystallized. I had it tested and it came back 100%. I ended up throwing it in the garbage. It did not feel anything close to Deca.

I would have painful injection sites. Mine turned a gel like substance, never crystallized, but if I ran hot water over the bottle it would turn right back to clear liquid.. crazy! I think it might have to do with the carrier oil but I’m not 100%

 

[Yano]

I would have painful injection sites. Mine turned a gel like substance, never crystallized, but if I ran hot water over the bottle it would turn right back to clear liquid.. crazy! I think it might have to do with the carrier oil but I’m not 100%

put it in the microwave for 3-5 seconds just enough to warm it , swirl , check it , repeat IF needed.

DO NOT COOK IT

 

[MxxC82]

put it in the microwave for 3-5 seconds just enough to warm it , swirl , check it , repeat IF needed.

DO NOT COOK IT

I’m good on the microwave experiment

I do the running hot water on my TRT test sometimes as some bottles in the past started to crystallize, I usually catch it quick and they dissolve quickly, but I had one bottle not so I used a filtered needle to draw out what I could and tossed it in the garbage! I’ve had one bottle of tests in an amber bottle for 1 1/2 years and when I started using it recently it’s been perfect… I don’t know what it is with some of this shit from the pharmacy that does it and doesn’t do it, I wish they would all use amber glass though.

I keep everything in the bedroom, but I also keep it pretty cool in there too, most gear doesn’t like temperatures below 70 degrees…. I keep a digital thermostat in the drawer and monitor the temp in it and if it starts getting cool I will take the liquids out and put them somewhere warmer in the house.

 

[CJ]

I’m good on the microwave experiment

I do the running hot water on my TRT test sometimes as some bottles in the past started to crystallize, I usually catch it quick and they dissolve quickly, but I had one bottle not so I used a filtered needle to draw out what I could and tossed it in the garbage! I’ve had one bottle of tests in an amber bottle for 1 1/2 years and when I started using it recently it’s been perfect… I don’t know what it is with some of this shit from the pharmacy that does it and doesn’t do it, I wish they would all use amber glass though.

I keep everything in the bedroom, but I also keep it pretty cool in there too, most gear doesn’t like temperatures below 70 degrees…. I keep a digital thermostat in the drawer and monitor the temp in it and if it starts getting cool I will take the liquids out and put them somewhere warmer in the house.

Microwave for a few seconds is fine. Lots of us do that.

 

[SFGiants]

The problem with water bath is the moisture, not what might get in from the outside as it's probably close to impossible. It's the condensation that happens inside.

Unless you really get it hot you won't' see the steam.

If you have a jar or media bottle, put oil in it and then sit it in a hot bath, then take off the top and see the steam. That steam is moisture, moisture ruins product and who's to say added moisture can't cause contamination?

Here is food for thought, too much heat evaporates BA.