WPO Superfinals

[Trendkill]

So it was today? What happened?

Women lifted today. Men tomorrow.

 

[Trendkill]

It's willfully ignorant to compare something like a squat suit to a deadlift bar or a belt. One is actively lifting the weight for you, one isn't.

As far as I'm concerned do away with the theatrics of putting it on and just use bands for assistance. Whether you're wearing the rubber band or it's attached to the bar, it's not interesting for me in any way.

Based on your comments and your assumption of my ignorance I’m not sure we can have a good debate here but I’ll try. Is your opinion based on your own experience using squat suits and other supportive gear? Have you competed both raw and equipped? I don’t know you or your competitive experience so I guess there is some ignorance on my part.

The overall point I’m trying to make is that ALL equipment utilized in powerlifting is done so for the same reason and that is to lift more weight. Whether it is stiffer or more flexible steel, leather, polyester, canvas or elasticized cotton doesn’t really change that fact. it’s all being worn for the same reason. Why is it ok to get 200lbs out of a pair of knee wraps, an 8ft extra stiff 60lb squat bar and eliminating the walkout by using a monolift but not ok to get 200lbs out of a squat suit?

Do you hold this same level of contempt for pro strongmen as well Or is it just geared powerlifting? Most of the competitors wear a squat suit for the squat lift. Most wear a deadlift suit for the deadlift events. They use tacky on the stones to lift more. They use straps and wear two belts simultaneously. Do you have an issue with this also?

Where do you personally draw the line on what is acceptable and what is not and how do you come to that decision? I’m genuinely curious.

 

[nissan11]

I'm going to watch this today.

 

[nissan11]

The live feed is a joke. I guess I'll try to watch it after it's all over

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[nissan11]

It's working now. This dude almost died.

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[Trendkill]

That’s Bob Merkh. Dudes a little crazy but all the best ones are.
this meet was a major disappointment from a spectators perspective. Hoff got hurt and no one rose to the challenge to beat him. Only had to pull 600 to win with an injured groin and still totaled over 2800. The WPO desperately needs more lifters. 15 years ago this meet was the best of the best in powerlifting. It got the best single and multiply guys together (no raw back then) and the weights being lifted were just sick.

 

[Steeeve]

Based on your comments and your assumption of my ignorance I’m not sure we can have a good debate here but I’ll try. Is your opinion based on your own experience using squat suits and other supportive gear? Have you competed both raw and equipped? I don’t know you or your competitive experience so I guess there is some ignorance on my part.

The overall point I’m trying to make is that ALL equipment utilized in powerlifting is done so for the same reason and that is to lift more weight. Whether it is stiffer or more flexible steel, leather, polyester, canvas or elasticized cotton doesn’t really change that fact. it’s all being worn for the same reason. Why is it ok to get 200lbs out of a pair of knee wraps, an 8ft extra stiff 60lb squat bar and eliminating the walkout by using a monolift but not ok to get 200lbs out of a squat suit?

Do you hold this same level of contempt for pro strongmen as well Or is it just geared powerlifting? Most of the competitors wear a squat suit for the squat lift. Most wear a deadlift suit for the deadlift events. They use tacky on the stones to lift more. They use straps and wear two belts simultaneously. Do you have an issue with this also?

Where do you personally draw the line on what is acceptable and what is not and how do you come to that decision? I’m genuinely curious.

It comes entirely down to the standards that are in place. At the WPO super finals for multiply? The boys are squatting sky high (compared to uspa raw depth), theyre not pausing their benches, and half arent locking out their deads. The contempt you see from raw lifters is less about the assistance the gear provides as the total lack of standards you almost always find at multiply meets (definitely not just the WPO. I can think of feds with even lower standards). You want to wear a Leviathan and squat 1,000? Im here for it dawg, but I honestly dont care at all when its 4 inches high. For context, I lifted equipped in the 2010s and now lift raw (sleeves, not wraps).

 

[Trendkill]

I've seen plenty of suspect lifts passed in every federation I've ever lifted in or spectated. It's part of the sport unfortunately. This is also nothing new and has been an issue in powerlifting since its inception. There is always favoritism at play especially for the big name lifters that bring in the big sponsors and more eyeballs. Or, even more unfortunately, for the lifters with a lot of Instagram followers. I've actually been shocked at some of the raw lifts I've seen that were turned down for not being deep enough. I've seen guys sink it 4" below parallel and get red lighted. To me that is just as big an issue as passing a high squat.

 

[Skullcrusher]

Was my first time watching any powerlifting event.

Pretty crazy!

Did not understand those shirts on bench press, never seen them before.

 

[nissan11]

Was my first time watching any powerlifting event.

Pretty crazy!

Did not understand those shirts on bench press, never seen them before.

I agree. Those bench press shirts look really funny. I think that would be the biggest turn off to someone new watching that event. Some of the lifters couldn't even grip the bar without someone spreading their arms for them.
And it shows how much assistance the shirt helps since those lifters were bench pressing as much or more than they could deadlift.

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[Skullcrusher]

I agree. Those bench press shirts look really funny. I think that would be the biggest turn off to someone new watching that event. Some of the lifters couldn't even grip the bar without someone spreading their arms for them.
And it shows how much assistance the shirt helps since those lifters were bench pressing as much or more than they could deadlift.

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Yeah I really don't understnad how it helps.

Maybe with the lock out?

 

[Metalhead1]

Yeah I really don't understnad how it helps.

Maybe with the lock out?

Mainly off the chest to a point. Depends on the material as well. The pressure is unreal when those fuckers expand on the chest as well.

The SDP is the one I used the most. most of the pressure, and pop came from the neck. You can get a little assistance on the Triceps by bunching the material behind them, but it's really not a lot.

 

[Metalhead1]

That’s Bob Merkh. Dudes a little crazy but all the best ones are.
this meet was a major disappointment from a spectators perspective. Hoff got hurt and no one rose to the challenge to beat him. Only had to pull 600 to win with an injured groin and still totaled over 2800. The WPO desperately needs more lifters. 15 years ago this meet was the best of the best in powerlifting. It got the best single and multiply guys together (no raw back then) and the weights being lifted were just sick.

i agree to a point, but i really only see Blaine Sumner being the closest one to competing against Hoff right now. All the great lifters that competed, are mainly the same ones that have competed every year barring injuries the past few. Yet, none of them are close to beating Hoff at his best that I've seen.

 

[Trendkill]

Was my first time watching any powerlifting event.

Pretty crazy!

Did not understand those shirts on bench press, never seen them before.

That was not the best meet for your first experience. Way too many injuries and bomb outs and overall the lifting just wasn't that impressive. The WPO needs to find a way to get more prize money involved. That would bring all the big names in the sport to the event.

As for the bench shirts, well, they help you bench more. If, and this is a big if, you learn how to use the shirt. The technical aspect of using a shirt is huge. As Metalhead said the pressure when the bar is at the chest is insane. Learning how to touch weights, alter your bench form completely from your raw form, pressing with the shirt and developing an insane lockout are essential.