Trying to gain 10 pounds of lean muscle in 12 months...2 cycles.

[jliftsbig]

Hey everyone -- need some experienced user advice.

So I am a small motherfcker I am 5'3" and I am now hitting 161 lbs with pretty minimal bodyfat like 11-13%

I am trying to gain strength and size and hit 170 lbs

Then I would like to cut down to 155 lbs 8% BF

The most I have taken on cycle is 500mg Test E 200 primo (last cycle 8 weeks)
Did 500mg my first cycle 8 weeks
Cruise on 125mg test between

My cycle thoughts
750mg test
400mg primo
Run for 12 weeks (first 3 weeks taper up)

or

750mg test
500 EQ
Run for 12-14 weeks

When I went higher on the primo, I felt low E sides. I am pretty new to this brothers.

Any and all help appreciated to help me be the most jacked hobbit I can be -

J

 

[Send0]

You can gain 10lbs of lean tissue in 12 months without a cycle.

 

[jliftsbig]

You can gain 10lbs of lean tissue in 12 months without a cycle.

@Send0 I have been feeding in a 10-15% Surplus --- 10% on days I don't have appetite and I have been gaining, but want to add gasoline.

 

[CJ]

@Send0 I have been feeding in a 10-15% Surplus --- 10% on days I don't have appetite and I have been gaining, but want to add gasoline.

Just a modest dose is plenty.

You don't need 1.2 grams of gear.

 

[Send0]

@Send0 I have been feeding in a 10-15% Surplus --- 10% on days I don't have appetite and I have been gaining, but want to add gasoline.

you don't need gasoline to gain 10lbs in 12 months . You definitely don't need 1.2g of gear.

Do you even know what your natural testosterone levels currently are? If so then post your blood work before we give recommendations.

 

[jliftsbig]

Just a modest dose is plenty.

You don't need 1.2 grams of gear.

Thanks @CJ

I am being overzealous...

With the surplus and around .5g total will assess ---

 

[jliftsbig]

Off cycle

 

[Send0]

how much did you gain when you did 500mg of test + 200mg Primo?

 

[jliftsbig]

how much did you gain when you did 500mg of test + 200mg Primo?

14 pounds but not all lean. I went from lean 135 lbs to 151 pretty lean test only then did test and primo and got to 165 lbs but lost definition

 

[snake]

You can gain 10lbs of lean tissue in 12 months without a cycle.

What am I doing wrong then?

 

[snake]

This is what I'm hearing, you want to gain about 10 lb and drop a little body fat. You don't need gear to do that.

Do you have some other goals?

 

[jliftsbig]

Long Term Lifting Goals

Legs
Squat 405 for 4 sets of 8
I am at 315 4 sets of 5

Chest
Bench 405 for 4 sets of 5
I am at 315 for 4 reps now when on cycle

Training for wrestling

 

[Gadawg]

If you learn to bench those numbers, I want to know how!

 

[jliftsbig]

If you learn to bench those numbers, I want to know how!

I will log the progress, I do not know how long it will take but when I hit it I'll share and verify with a recording or something

 

[Determined]

Primo over eq all day for me.. but not cheaper lol

 

[Diesel59]

Are you a luchador?

 

[jliftsbig]

Primo over eq all day for me.. but not cheaper lol

When I used it, felt good, strong not a lot of water but I broke out on the arms and shoulders and then libido died but I used too much and then changed ratio and libido went back

 

[jliftsbig]

Are you a luchador?

wannabe but will be. I have 2 web businesses that sell home services but I want to wrestle before I get old and die

 

[Send0]

What am I doing wrong then?

you're already big, that's your problem.

 

[Send0]

14 pounds but not all lean. I went from lean 135 lbs to 151 pretty lean test only then did test and primo and got to 165 lbs but lost definition

fat gain is normal, it can't be avoided if you are serious about putting on mass. If you're that concerned then lower your caloric intake, because it's diet that determines how much fat gets stored... drugs have little to do with that.

You gained 14lbs in 8 weeks last time, so just do 500mg of testosterone again. If it isn't broke then don't fix it.