Newbie DNP Run Log

[flenser]

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[weightlossburn]

If you do suffer major night sweats, and at 200mg ed that's not a certainty, these are some products I found worth the investment : )

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Thanks for the tip, see my post #70. Not sure it works for all, but for some strange reason it does work for me.

 

[Londinium]

Day 21:Weigh in day
Started at 98.9kg and now at 95.5
Started at 218 lbs to 210.5 lbs

From next week ill be starting cardio but wont be going intense at all to limit any muscle loss

Based on this rate of fat loss i might be on dnp for more than 3 months

Only cardio i can think of that wont burn muscle is walking so ill shoot for upto 20 miles of walking per week

Worked for when cutting previous

 

[Clarkpep]

I just got on DNP and have been on for about two weeks but came off the two days before New Years and the day after so I could go out and not sweat.

You seem to be struggling to lose weight, so let offer you some advice. Let me preface it with the fact that I really haven’t read thru your whole thread, but rather I read the first page and this page.

While people say don’t look at the scale, the scale should be moving overall down throughout your DNP run, except for the daily fluctuations in water weight and the initial onset of water weight after about a week.

You probably need to tighten up your diet if you have only lost around 8 lbs in 3 weeks. Granted you might be holding a couple pounds of water and could have lost closer to 10 lbs after the water goes… but to be taking DNP and only having that result leads me to believe you aren’t eating properly. Naturally and without DNP, in the past I have lost 2-3 lbs a week pretty easily.

If you are struggling with the carb cravings, from my understanding it is when your blood sugar has crashed. I had this problem two times my first week and ended up binging on rice cakes and even after 8 I was still starving. I kid you not I was at the gym doing evening cardio and I couldn’t hold a conversation because all I could think about was going home and eating rice cakes.

The next time I just had some fruit (half a banana and some strawberries) and the cravings and lethargy went away quickly and I didn’t ruin my diet.

For reference, I used to compete and got injured which led me to gain around 40 lbs of fat. I am back at it and wanted a boost to lose it, so after losing 20 lbs naturally over a course of 3 months, I wanted DNP to help the last 20 lbs. So far I am two weeks in at 250 mg a day (ignoring 4 days around New Years) and am down 10 lbs. I’m not on any anabolic hormones anymore, but I do take 40 mcg of clen to help with asthma and frankly I enjoy it, ephedrine (again the asthma), and I take 50 mcg of t3 since starting DNP.

My recommendation:

- You should not be on this stuff for months as you are saying you plan on doing. This stuff makes me hold water and I can tell it is not good for the body. Being on for months because you can’t diet and exercise properly is insane. If you have to do that… then the second you come off you’ll just regain most of the weight because you don’t have proper diet and exercise in place to begin with.

- If your diet is hard and you are suffering from cravings… try a little bit of high glycemic carbs like fruit when you get the cravings. The short spike in blood sugar should remedy the cravings. Also having low glycemic complex carbs throughout the day and some cinnamon can help stable out your blood sugar.

If you need help with diet advice, just PM me. I eat stuff like artificial sugars and etc which doctors and health freaks say is unhealthy… but from a caloric and bodybuilding perspective… it’s perfect.

 

[Londinium]

I just got on DNP and have been on for about two weeks but came off the two days before New Years and the day after so I could go out and not sweat.

You seem to be struggling to lose weight, so let offer you some advice. Let me preface it with the fact that I really haven’t read thru your whole thread, but rather I read the first page and this page.

While people say don’t look at the scale, the scale should be moving overall down throughout your DNP run, except for the daily fluctuations in water weight and the initial onset of water weight after about a week.

You probably need to tighten up your diet if you have only lost around 8 lbs in 3 weeks. Granted you might be holding a couple pounds of water and could have lost closer to 10 lbs after the water goes… but to be taking DNP and only having that result leads me to believe you aren’t eating properly. Naturally and without DNP, in the past I have lost 2-3 lbs a week pretty easily.

If you are struggling with the carb cravings, from my understanding it is when your blood sugar has crashed. I had this problem two times my first week and ended up binging on rice cakes and even after 8 I was still starving. I kid you not I was at the gym doing evening cardio and I couldn’t hold a conversation because all I could think about was going home and eating rice cakes.

The next time I just had some fruit (half a banana and some strawberries) and the cravings and lethargy went away quickly and I didn’t ruin my diet.

For reference, I used to compete and got injured which led me to gain around 40 lbs of fat. I am back at it and wanted a boost to lose it, so after losing 20 lbs naturally over a course of 3 months, I wanted DNP to help the last 20 lbs. So far I am two weeks in at 250 mg a day (ignoring 4 days around New Years) and am down 10 lbs. I’m not on any anabolic hormones anymore, but I do take 40 mcg of clen to help with asthma and frankly I enjoy it, ephedrine (again the asthma), and I take 50 mcg of t3 since starting DNP.

My recommendation:

- You should not be on this stuff for months as you are saying you plan on doing. This stuff makes me hold water and I can tell it is not good for the body. Being on for months because you can’t diet and exercise properly is insane. If you have to do that… then the second you come off you’ll just regain most of the weight because you don’t have proper diet and exercise in place to begin with.

- If your diet is hard and you are suffering from cravings… try a little bit of high glycemic carbs like fruit when you get the cravings. The short spike in blood sugar should remedy the cravings. Also having low glycemic complex carbs throughout the day and some cinnamon can help stable out your blood sugar.

If you need help with diet advice, just PM me. I eat stuff like artificial sugars and etc which doctors and health freaks say is unhealthy… but from a caloric and bodybuilding perspective… it’s perfect.

thanks for the advice bro but

ive been keto for 95% of the run only breaking keto three days in and ive been keto ever since
To be fair i havent been doing cardio which i will be implementing and im also a noob in the gym so the lack of weight loss could be because im recomping

If by this time next week i have lost at least 2lbs then ill have to go very intense on the cardio to get to my goal but for now the plan is LISS

Also i have no qualms when it comes to holding water as it will come off when i stop and even with me holding water my body should still look leaner as im losing mostly if not all fat hopefully

 

[Beti ona]

to be taking DNP and only having that result leads me to believe you aren’t eating properly. Naturally and without DNP, in the past I have lost 2-3 lbs a week pretty easily.

Not all people will be as successful in losing fat as you, since DNP, like any other drug, is something that works according to individual genetics.

The fatter you are, the more pounds you will drop. The more quiantity you take, the more pounds you will drop.

Cardio and diet are always important and should be set at 100%, whether you are running DNP or not.

 

[Londinium]

Not all people will be as successful in losing fat as you, since DNP, like any other drug, is something that works according to individual genetics.

The fatter you are, the more pounds you will drop. The more quiantity you take, the more pounds you will drop.

Cardio and diet are always important and should be set at 100%, whether you are running DNP or not.

i started off at 40% bf so youd think it would be working well even without cardio but so far not the case
Ill probably have to do something drastic cardio wise soon

 

[Beti ona]

I’m not on any anabolic hormones anymore, but I do take 40 mcg of clen to help with asthma and frankly I enjoy it, ephedrine (again the asthma), and I take 50 mcg of t3 since starting DNP.

You dont need T3, And if you are not using hormones, you are at risk of muscle catabolism.

 

[Londinium]

You dont need T3, And if you are not using hormones, you are at risk of muscle catabolism.

how hard do you think i can push the cardio before i start to experience muscle loss?
Id rather take a while to get to my goal and not have any muscle loss instead of going overboard with the cardio and losing all my gains
What do you suggest?

 

[weightlossburn]

thanks for the advice bro but

ive been keto for 95% of the run only breaking keto three days in and ive been keto ever since
To be fair i havent been doing cardio which i will be implementing and im also a noob in the gym so the lack of weight loss could be because im recomping

If by this time next week i have lost at least 2lbs then ill have to go very intense on the cardio to get to my goal but for now the plan is LISS

Also i have no qualms when it comes to holding water as it will come off when i stop and even with me holding water my body should still look leaner as im losing mostly if not all fat hopefully

I think you are doing fine. If you can get your hands on semaglutide that stuff is great. Things like modafinil work really well with dnp. On an easier to get scale, l-carnatine and alpha yohimbine (not regular yohimbine) also helps.

I struggled for a while with DNP. Going from 205 to high 190s only to be stuck there. Got my hands on some semaglutide and shit started coming off so fast, I was interested in slowing down my weight loss. I am now in the mid to upper 180s.

 

[Londinium]

I think you are doing fine. If you can get your hands on semaglutide that stuff is great. Things like modafinil work really well with dnp. On an easier to get scale, l-carnatine and alpha yohimbine (not regular yohimbine) also helps.

I struggled for a while with DNP. Going from 205 to high 190s only to be stuck there. Got my hands on some semaglutide and shit started coming off so fast, I was interested in slowing down my weight loss. I am now in the mid to upper 180s.

funny u say that ive got a vial of sema in my fridge but only used it once
Probably because its only 200£ here in the uk which is dirt cheap compared to what ive heard its priced at in the states
As for hunger i dont really feel it unless im up very late at night so discipline for me isnt an issue
Would doubling the dosage be viable seeing as 200mg is quite low

 

[weightlossburn]

funny u say that ive got a vial of sema in my fridge but only used it once
Probably because its only 200£ here in the uk which is dirt cheap compared to what ive heard its priced at in the states
As for hunger i dont really feel it unless im up very late at night so discipline for me isnt an issue
Would doubling the dosage be viable seeing as 200mg is quite low

Is it the ozempic? I managed to score the best pen for $250. I assume pounds are more valuable than dollars. Whatever it is, if you have it, use it. It didn't do shit for 2 weeks and then all hell broke loose. I was satisfied with my regular meals. Snacking wasn't of interest and I think I lost like 10 lbs in 9 days.

I think nootropics are important too. For weight loss, cognitivity, and libido.

 

[Londinium]

Is it the ozempic? I managed to score the best pen for $250. I assume pounds are more valuable than dollars. Whatever it is, if you have it, use it. It didn't do shit for 2 weeks and then all hell broke loose. I was satisfied with my regular meals. Snacking wasn't of interest and I think I lost like 10 lbs in 9 days.

I think nootropics are important too. For weight loss, cognitivity, and libido.

it works but it did make me feel a bit nauseous if im remembering correctly
What was your cardio regimen when on dnp?

 

[Beti ona]

i started off at 40% bf so youd think it would be working well even without cardio but so far not the case
Ill probably have to do something drastic cardio wise soon

Be patient, if your diet is correct, you will have to drop a lot of fat before you need cardio sessions. I would worry more about lifting and building some muscle.

 

[Beti ona]

how hard do you think i can push the cardio before i start to experience muscle loss?
Id rather take a while to get to my goal and not have any muscle loss instead of going overboard with the cardio and losing all my gains
What do you suggest?

Unless you drop below 12% body fat, you shouldn't worry about losing lean tissue, as long as you lift weights and eat the optimum amount of protein.

You could be a poor responder to DNP and need more quantity... but no, you have lost a few pounds, so be patient.

And do not use more drugs, save them for later, keep aces up your sleeve for the best moment. The same with cardio, don't go crazy, just start with 30 minutes fasting 3-4 days a week and make changes each week, increase the time or days of cardio. Same with diet.

In advanced stages of the cut diet (less than 10% fat) you will probably need 2 sessions of 1 hour cardio.

 

[weightlossburn]

it works but it did make me feel a bit nauseous if im remembering correctly
What was your cardio regimen when on dnp?

Cardio didn't get a negative effect at all. I use the freeform elliptical (I may have made up that term, it looks like an elliptical, but you kind of control the way your legs move, up and down, or out further, whatever you want), it's a good workout and easy on the knees. Full hour, resistance up every 5 minutes. I know dnp is working though, my neck sweats at night and my back with a soaked shirt.

I started ozempic at 0.25mg, then I got confused and didn't realize I had the strongest pen, so I took 1.25mg week 2 by accident. That made me nauseous. I'm telling you, continue with the semiglutide, take the correct dose, and watch magic happen starting in week 3.

 

[Londinium]

Be patient, if your diet is correct, you will have to drop a lot of fat before you need cardio sessions. I would worry more about lifting and building some muscle.

understood
my diet is full of protein more than enough and im making progress with my lifts

 

[Londinium]

Unless you drop below 12% body fat, you shouldn't worry about losing lean tissue, as long as you lift weights and eat the optimum amount of protein.

You could be a poor responder to DNP and need more quantity... but no, you have lost a few pounds, so be patient.

And do not use more drugs, save them for later, keep aces up your sleeve for the best moment. The same with cardio, don't go crazy, just start with 30 minutes fasting 3-4 days a week and make changes each week, increase the time or days of cardio. Same with diet.

In advanced stages of the cut diet (less than 10% fat) you will probably need 2 sessions of 1 hour cardio.

yeah tbh im not trying to lower than 15% having to make more hopefully shouldnt be needed

 

[Clarkpep]

You dont need T3, And if you are not using hormones, you are at risk of muscle catabolism.

Do you have any idea what DNP does to your T3 levels. Unless you want to be miserable with crashed levels, a low dose to replenish natural levels is advisable. 50 mcg is not going to set you to critical levels of risking going catabolic unless you’re a 100 pound female.

Additionally, thru the mechanism which DNP burns fat, it is considered to have anti-catabolic effects relative to other fat burners.

This is all relative and of course you will burn some muscle when in a caloric deficit; however, you will not lose any more muscle by using DNP, Clen, or replenishing amounts of T3 than you would naturally losing the weight at the same pace.

Suggesting that you should use exogenous anabolic hormones so “you don’t risk muscle catabolism” is about as ignorant of a comment that I’ve seen in a while.

DNP - Anti-Catabolic Effects Relative to Natural
Clen - Anti-Catabolic Effects Relative to Natural
T3 - Catabolic at high dosages, but at low dosages to replenish natural levels is negligible.

 

[Clarkpep]

i started off at 40% bf so youd think it would be working well even without cardio but so far not the case
Ill probably have to do something drastic cardio wise soon

I’m telling you man, tighten down your diet.

I know you say you’re eating Keto, but you also got to be at a caloric deficit at the end of the day factoring in the effects of DNP, your food intake deficit, and your exercise.

Being on DNP for months is not going to be the answer if that’s what you’re considering. If you have trouble losing weight taking DNP, it really is indicative that your diet isn’t dialed in.

A lot of times people think that keto alone will lose weight. However, a keto diet actually can make an amateur end up at a caloric surplus because most keto foods are calorie dense and the naive client can end up consuming more calories than they think they’re consuming.