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    SCIROXX - Real or Hype?

    Whats up fellas!

    (for all who know me this will be a completely honest thread. I have no reason to lie and I could care less if things don't work out. I am also not promoting anyone in this thread. I am simply trying out products to be able to pass my experience along to the rest of you and find the truth!)


    So I never ever do logs but as some of you know I have been on the hunt for real IGF-1 for a while now. I've spent thousands and thousands on this hunt without getting one single vial of real IGF. Ive even had a doc write up a fake study in order to gain buying access of IGf1-LR3 from an international reagent protein manufacturer. I ran that at 100mcg for 2 months and I got nothing from it. No insane pumps, no extra gains, no noticeable strength or size. That's just a touch of my hunt for IGF. After that I gave up because if the guys who provided it to massive universities to preform studies and have federal approval to make couldn't get me something that does what all the hype says it does then in my book it just doesn't exist or the guys from back in the day are full of it.

    Here is the link to the thread which sparked this trial:

    https://www.ugbodybuilding.com/threa...I-combine-them

    So to begin with I contacted sciroxx and asked if I could pick up some IGF1. He was fairly decent about replying in a respectable time frame. We did have a communication break down which almost led to this thread not getting started. We worked on what type of cycle I was going to run. I sent him what I wanted to do but he was in a hurry when he read the proposal and just said ok to it. My proposed trial went like this:

    IGF1-LR3 at 100mcg/day for 30 days/am shot
    IGF1-Des at 100mcg/day for 60 days/pre work out into the muscle that I was working that day
    GH (somastim) at 3iu am and pm everyday for 60 days

    I was not asking for a handout here either. I offered to purchase these products. Sciroxx said he would toss me the IGF but I would have to buy the GH. Not a problem. I sent the funds. About 14 days later my pack arrived. When I opened it all of my GH was there but there was only 4 vials of IGF-LR3 and 6 vials of IGF1-DES. I emailed him and that's when the break down occurred. So long story short he resent me enough IGF1-DES to try out for 24 days at 100mcg pre work out. We cancelled the IGF-LR3. I don't believe 24 days is long enough for a trial run but hey its his money so I cant really argue. I must say that regardless of the communication breakdown he kept his professionalism about him.


    As of right now I have been on the GH for about 3 weeks. I am starting the DES today - 50mcg in each tricep. I am starting this thread right before I hit the gym so I will log back in later to note if I noticed anything from it.

    I will be getting my IGF level tested in 2 or 3 weeks as well to see how good his GH is. I have not noticed any sides from the GH at all but that doesn't mean anything as I have taken pharm GH the same way for 8 months and didn't notice any sides.

    The thing about the IGF1 is that it cannot be blood tested so there is no way to know if it is real or not but from what everyone says on the net is that it should create noticeable growth and extreme pumps. If any of you have anything you would like me to look for while giving this thing a test run please let me know. I doubt I have ever had real IGF so I do consider myself a rookie when it comes to running it. I have no experience with real IGF...just a ton of fake shit (as far as I know)

    Scrioxx has told me in emails he just wants my honest opinions about the run and that is what Im going to give...good or bad.

    So lets see if his claims are legit or not!!!

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    To kick this thing off I will list what I have been running for the last 6 months with no changes to the gear:

    Test e 300 @ 900mg/week
    Tren e 200 @ 600mg/week
    EQ 300 @ 600mg/week
    Mast e 200 @ 400mg/week
    Winni oral @ 100mg/day
    Anavar oral @ 100mg/day
    GH @ 6iu/day - 3iu am - 3iu pm

    I will continue on this cycle during this entire trial. I am in a cut right now and am down to 10%. I am working on getting to 8% before I start a bulk. I will be taking measurements of my arms and legs during this. I realize I am in a cut but if any of these grow while in a cut than it is most likely to do with the IGF.

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    In for the run, Cobra.
    "So make ya move and plead the Fifth cuz' ya can't plead the First..."
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    Looking forward to seeing what happens bud!!



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    Subscribing for curiosity

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    thats a hell of a cycle. sub'd to see results.

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    Its not really a cycle if you never come off lol

    Ok so the first tricep day went like this - NORMAL

    I didn't notice any extra strength or any crazy pump beyond what I normally have. Im not sure if IGF is suppose to work that instantly or if it takes time to build?

    Tomorrow is my off day. I will be hitting legs on Monday. 50mcg in each thigh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra Strike View Post
    To kick this thing off I will list what I have been running for the last 6 months with no changes to the gear:

    Test e 300 @ 900mg/week
    Tren e 200 @ 600mg/week
    EQ 300 @ 600mg/week
    Mast e 200 @ 400mg/week
    Winni oral @ 100mg/day
    Anavar oral @ 100mg/day
    GH @ 6iu/day - 3iu am - 3iu pm

    I will continue on this cycle during this entire trial. I am in a cut right now and am down to 10%. I am working on getting to 8% before I start a bulk. I will be taking measurements of my arms and legs during this. I realize I am in a cut but if any of these grow while in a cut than it is most likely to do with the IGF.
    Holy cycle. Damn cobra. I'm in to see what happens brother.
    Strengthfirst

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    Def interested in this sir! Keep it up and kick some arse

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    Quote Originally Posted by ECKSRATED View Post
    Holy cycle. Damn cobra. I'm in to see what happens brother.
    Nothing major will come from the gear. I think I have just been on gear to long. I don't have newb gains anymore. I mean every goal I have will take me 8 months to a year to obtain. I find that when I try to rush things I end up doing more damage than good. There isn't any 5lb gains in a week ever. Its like 1/2lb a week on a bulk if I am lucky.

    Im just really curious to see how this IGF DES works!

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    It'll be interesting if you may take a serum test of GH and IGF1 (with other parameters of course, such as glucose, liver etc), it'll give some valuable indication to the Soamstim (GH) you're taking
    Also - on what wight, body fat% you started ? duer to miscommunication between us you started the IGF1 and then dropped it and then started again, noticed any changes in these parameters ?

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