natty test question

[eatspinach]

Did you have your E levels tested since you've been on trt? I'm sure you need them anyway but curious to know if they are bald-face denying you AI's in spite of your levels. If so what are they?

 

[Rip]

Funny you should ask...At one point, my nipples were sore and sensitive. My girlfriend would accidentally bump them or lay her head against my chest and I flew through the roof. LOL. I kept telling the Dr, but she said the specialist who trained her said that AI's aren't necessary. At one point she said to just stop taking the TESt for a while. Then, after complaining alot, she finally broke dawn and prescribed 4 anastozole, total, to take one per week for 4 weeks. I couldn't believe it. I took 2/week instead. Then I bought some liquid anastrozole from a place through the internet, called "ChemOne," that sells research chemicals. it finally went back to normal.
Recently, I went back to getting my TEST from a clinic in Florida that costs an arm and a leg. They prescribed Test Prop 1ml 3x/week, 1mg anastrozole, 2x/week, and 10mg tamoxifen, 2x/week, but I'm running out. it's super expensive. I think they cater to older, rich guys, who fly in to get their check up and a new script every once and a while. I can't keep up that expense.
Right now, I'm taking 100mg of TEST E two times/week
I figured that i wanted to at least find a place to get the AI's, Then, I can take the prescribed TEST, or buy somewhere else.
BTW, I just had bloodwork done
Total TESt: 853
FREE TEST: 186
E: 29
What do you think?

 

[DF]

Funny you should ask...At one point, my nipples were sore and sensitive. My girlfriend would accidentally bump them or lay her head against my chest and I flew through the roof. LOL. I kept telling the Dr, but she said the specialist who trained her said that AI's aren't necessary. At one point she said to just stop taking the TESt for a while. Then, after complaining alot, she finally broke dawn and prescribed 4 anastozole, total, to take one per week for 4 weeks. I couldn't believe it. I took 2/week instead. Then I bought some liquid anastrozole from a place through the internet, called "ChemOne," that sells research chemicals. it finally went back to normal.
Recently, I went back to getting my TEST from a clinic in Florida that costs an arm and a leg. They prescribed Test Prop 1ml 3x/week, 1mg anastrozole, 2x/week, and 10mg tamoxifen, 2x/week, but I'm running out. it's super expensive. I think they cater to older, rich guys, who fly in to get their check up and a new script every once and a while. I can't keep up that expense.
Right now, I'm taking 100mg of TEST E two times/week
I figured that i wanted to at least find a place to get the AI's, Then, I can take the prescribed TEST, or buy somewhere else.
BTW, I just had bloodwork done
Total TESt: 853
FREE TEST: 186
E: 29
What do you think?

Those levels dont look bad. Some would like their E a bit lower, but i'd go by how you feel ect... Buying you r AI from research co's are fine as long as they are good anyway. As far as buying other things that you need for you trt. Stick around make posts/friends & you'll find what you need.

 

[eatspinach]

RiP - Have you called around locally to see if you can get a local endorinologist to work with you? Transfer your trt program? I go to a gym where the doctor sees you at the gym after bloodwork and sets you up on a program for weightloss/trt. I'm prescribed metformin, thyroid, phentermine, and soon testosterone and a-dex after final bloodwork comes back. It costs $400 for 1st month and $167/month after that(gym fees included). Of course I have to buy my scripts at a compounding pharmacy but test is $67 dollars for 10ml of cyp. I don't know how that compares to your expenses though. This may be too much for some if you rely on your insurance (I don't have any). Not sure how that works for you.

 

[03ACE]

Rip, I was in a similar boat but my doc was just ignorant, not negligent. He just looked at his lab's reference ranges for E2, adn since mine was in there, he was like "looks great!". My E2 was 47.... Their ref range for males says 43-53? I have NO idea WTF that is about. I was taking 100mg/wk of test then. I went to 150/wk and my E2 was at 88! So I said the hell with it, changed to 60mg 2x/wk and added Liquidex @ .25ml 2x/wk the day after injection. My TT on the day of injection at my last checkup was 695 with E2 of 18. Much better!

 

[Rip]

My E was 29 a week ago...I'm wondering if that's too high?
If it is, what should I do? Increase the Anastrozole?
I'm taking 1mg anastrozole 2x/week, and 10mg tamoxifen 2x/week

 

[OCDude]

This has got me thinking.... The more I look back over the past year, the more I recognize symptoms of Low T. My last labs came in at 403 total Test (range was 348-1197). And that was at 9am, supposedly test levels decrease during the day. So by the time sexy time rolls around at night, I'm more or less apethetic at times. Damn, wish I'd thought about this before starting my cycle, could have gotten tested a couple more times to take to my doctor. I know I'm still within a "normal" range but its certainly on the low end for a 33 year old. Guess I'll revisit this a couple months after PCT and see where I landed.

 

[creekrat]

OC, I know the average for a 30 year old is 620

 

[OCDude]

Yeah that's what I was reading last night. I figure I'm low enough to make a case for it with the right doc. Not sure how my GP would feel. Not that I'd do this, but could sabotage my own PCT and then my natty numbers would be F'd enough to get his attention LOL. But then he's going to question how I gained 20 pounds in 6 months!