2021 UGBB Winter BULK Thread

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I dropped GH today, but going to keep my blast going until 01/15.

My reasoning is that I suspect I may not have been as side effect free from GH as I think I was. I want to drop the GH while keeping everything else the same to see if my tendonitis issues seem to magically resolve themselves over the course of the next 3-4 weeks.
I wasn't aware you were on HGH. how many I.U.'s were you doing daily and what is your frequency?
 

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I wasn't aware you were on HGH. how many I.U.'s were you doing daily and what is your frequency?
7 months, injected 4x per day, started at 4iu, and worked my way up to 10iu... Last 4 months were between 8-10iu.

IGF tests show it's real GH, but can't say gains were mind blowing. Then again I still have a host of issues/injuries.. so it's possible I wasn't able to maximize what I was taking.

I'll try it again next year, assuming I am truly operating at 100% by then.
 
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Thanks for starting this. I will be starting my bulk at almost the same time. I'll be bulking for ~4 months. Then 3 months of staying at maintenance before I go into the 2022 spring/summer cut.

My goal is to put on 20lbs, with hopefully at least 12 of those pounds being lean mass... my other goal is to do everything I can to stay injury free this time around. If I can manage to gain some strength then that will just be icing on the cake.
I’m at 18% body now. Should I consider bulking still? Or just run with what I have continued with a slow cut. I’m looking to getting in my 1st competition in aug. Did you ever run into this kind of scenario? I’m pretty vascular up to my shoulders. Just a visceral thing according to my body scan I had in Boston. New here , you appear to be pretty experienced
 

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I’m at 18% body now. Should I consider bulking still? Or just run with what I have continued with a slow cut. I’m looking to getting in my 1st competition in aug. Did you ever run into this kind of scenario? I’m pretty vascular up to my shoulders. Just a visceral thing according to my body scan I had in Boston. New here , you appear to be pretty experienced
If you want to compete on August, then you should definitely not start bulking now. You simply don't have time, especially if your current bodyfat is 18%.

People say you should be 10% bodyfat before considering a bulk. I disagree... I think people can start a bulk at a minimum of 12% bodyfat. So even if you followed my advice, you would still need to lose 6% body fat.

Also, don't confuse knowledge for experience. I do know a lot of things, but I am not nearly as experienced as many other people here. I just want to be clear on that, there are plenty of people here who I would personally listen to over myself. 😁
 

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7 months, injected 4x per day, started at 4iu, and worked my way up to 10iu... Last 4 months were between 8-10iu.

IGF tests show it's real GH, but can't say gains were mind blowing. Then again I still have a host of issues/injuries.. so it's possible I wasn't able to maximize what I was taking.

I'll try it again next year, assuming I am truly operating at 100% by then.

The most I would take (in addition to gear) was 5 IU/day. When I got joint issues due to gh, I cut to every 4 day using Serostim (they come in 1cc vials) and when using Bacterio-static water, life suspension is about 4 days. In EP, I could only find humatrope (now discontinued) and it was 50 IUs that needed to be used in 14 days. Serostim we’re 7 individual cc/box (70 IU)


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The most I would take (in addition to gear) was 5 IU/day. When I got joint issues due to gh, I cut to every 4 day using Serostim (they come in 1cc vials) and when using Bacterio-static water, life suspension is about 4 days. In EP, I could only find humatrope (now discontinued) and it was 50 IUs that needed to be used in 14 days. Serostim we’re 7 individual cc/box (70 IU)


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I've had some tendonitis in my forearm and bicep that never completely goes away. In the last week I've started to get tingling in my fingers; which I know is a side effect of GH.

So it got me wondering if maybe my tendonitis has been a GH side this entire time and I just didn't connect the dots. Guess I'll find out in a few weeks as my GH and IGF levels go back down.

Keeping my fingers crossed
 
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If you want to compete on August, then you should definitely not start bulking now. You simply don't have time, especially if your current bodyfat is 18%.

People say you should be 10% bodyfat before considering a bulk. I disagree... I think people can start a bulk at a minimum of 12% bodyfat. So even if you followed my advice, you would still need to lose 6% body fat.

Also, don't confuse knowledge for experience. I do know a lot of things, but I am not nearly as experienced as many other people here. I just want to be clear on that, there are plenty of people here who I would personally listen to over myself. 😁
Lol. Ok. Thanks ! I appreciate your imput
 

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I've had some tendonitis in my forearm and bicep that never completely goes away. In the last week I've started to get tingling in my fingers; which I know is a side effect of GH.

So it got me wondering if maybe my tendonitis has been a GH side this entire time and I just didn't connect the dots. Guess I'll find out in a few weeks as my GH and IGF levels go back down.

Keeping my fingers crossed
It is. I had the same issue whenever I would take it. Just decrease dosage (space out same IU's) to maybe every other day.
 

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It is. I had the same issue whenever I would take it. Just decrease dosage (space out same IU's) to maybe every other day.
It's about time for me to stop anyway. If these issues go away then I will definitely lower the dose next time I try it.

Thanks man!
 

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12/29/21
BW 204

Super need to eat, I got busy and haven’t eaten today.

Back day was okay. Still limited by a glute I can barely use.



But I’m def happy to be back to #TeamStache again.
 

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12/29/21
BW 204

Super need to eat, I got busy and haven’t eaten today.

Back day was okay. Still limited by a glute I can barely use.



But I’m def happy to be back to #TeamStache again.
Nice job there brother, and your avatar is like a cartoon lol.
 

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I'm still going, just haven't been posting here, only in my log. I forgot.

Weekly Weight/Nutrition Update:

Weekly average weight of 211.0 lbs, down 1.6 lbs from the week prior. Water weight continues to fall off, I'm feeling great, still pretty lean, so I'll continue to stretch out my cycle.

I just finished 13 weeks, up 9.3 lbs from the start. Was taking roughly 400 mg week of Test and NPP, I'll continue on with just 800 mg Test. I've never run Test this high, so we'll see how it goes. Really looking forward to pinning only 2x/week vs the EOD I've been doing. 🤗

3946 Cals
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295g P
134g F
 

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I'm still going, just haven't been posting here, only in my log. I forgot.

Weekly Weight/Nutrition Update:

Weekly average weight of 211.0 lbs, down 1.6 lbs from the week prior. Water weight continues to fall off, I'm feeling great, still pretty lean, so I'll continue to stretch out my cycle.

I just finished 13 weeks, up 9.3 lbs from the start. Was taking roughly 400 mg week of Test and NPP, I'll continue on with just 800 mg Test. I've never run Test this high, so we'll see how it goes. Really looking forward to pinning only 2x/week vs the EOD I've been doing.

3946 Cals
385g C
295g P
134g F

Well sh!t so am I. I’m not leaning out yet. Still got another month or so. I posted my photo to the summer one in its stead.


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I'm still going, just haven't been posting here, only in my log. I forgot.

Weekly Weight/Nutrition Update:

Weekly average weight of 211.0 lbs, down 1.6 lbs from the week prior. Water weight continues to fall off, I'm feeling great, still pretty lean, so I'll continue to stretch out my cycle.

I just finished 13 weeks, up 9.3 lbs from the start. Was taking roughly 400 mg week of Test and NPP, I'll continue on with just 800 mg Test. I've never run Test this high, so we'll see how it goes. Really looking forward to pinning only 2x/week vs the EOD I've been doing.

3946 Cals
385g C
295g P
134g F

With or without an AI?


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With or without an AI?


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Without. But I have a bunch of Adex on hand, just in case.

I've never gotten out of the 30's for E2, using up to 500 Test.

We'll see how it goes. 🤞

I'm prepared to pull the plug immediately at any time, this is like OT at the end of the game.
 

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Without. But I have a bunch of Adex on hand, just in case.

I've never gotten out of the 30's for E2, using up to 500 Test.

We'll see how it goes.

I'm prepared to pull the plug immediately at any time, this is like OT at the end of the game.

You will grow like a weed. As long as you don’t have any negative effects, you will never use an AI again.
The power of estrogen will be seen.


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I'm still going up as well , scales bouncing tween 233/234 today started this at 209. Still only eating 3k calories weight isn't skyrocketing up like it was , nice n slow now. Dropped the bol after the first 6 weeks , raised the test to 500 deca is still at 200 , takes more time to get off than at the beginning of the cycle but nothing I can call "deca dick" he's still waking up before I do ready to go shopping for a new hat. This beginning week 8 now figure ill run the test/deca out til 12 weeks, then add back in the bol or maybe something a little dryer like var or tbol so I can get a bit of a boost at the end for the last 6 but not swell back up with water , we'll see I'm open to any and all ideas I am sure no cycle genius.
 
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