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Today I had someone ask me if Jay Cutler was. Didn’t know how to respond...
 

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I'm pretty sure frankie did all his work for him...
 

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Good for him. All these fake natties are filling kids’ heads with delusional aspirations that they can look like them without enhancement.
 

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Fuuk that, "Just don't take steroids to grow muscles or impress a girl. Take them to win a competition" bullshit. You don't need steroids to win a competition. You don't need them to grow muscles and theses days, you sure as shit don't need them to get a girl.

These Pros act like they are the only ones who have a right to gear. 90% of the people who use gear will never see a platform or a stage. I like this guy but don't tell people what to do with their bodies. I got a pro tip for him, avoid repelling and 2 man bicep curls.
 
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Fuuk that, "Just don't take steroids to grow muscles or impress a girl. Take them to win a competition" bullshit. You don't need steroids to win a competition. You don't need them to grow muscles and theses days, you sure as shit don't need them to get a girl.

These Pros act like they are the only ones who have a right to gear. 90% of the people who use gear will never see a platform or a stage. I like this guy but don't tell people what to do with their bodies. I got a pro tip for him, avoid repelling and 2 man bicep curls.

I get where you’re coming from, but I also get where he’s coming from too. I think he’s making too broad a generalization, as there are certainly plenty of adults (like most of us) who use gear because we enjoy its many benefits, after thoroughly weighing the costs and benefits, despite not necessarily ever stepping on stage or on the platform.

But today there are also a TON of young kids (we’re talking teenagers) who hop on loads of gear just because they want to get cool pictures for social media.

So I think he is at least acknowledging that practice as being stupid, which guys like him (‘influencers’ with millions of followers) should be talking about more often. His average demographic is teenage to early adult males, so I can appreciate that he’s addressing the fact that you shouldn’t just hop on gear without a purpose, after having put time in the game.
 

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.....So I think he is at least acknowledging that practice as being stupid, which guys like him (‘influencers’ with millions of followers) should be talking about more often. His average demographic is teenage to early adult males, so I can appreciate that he’s addressing the fact that you shouldn’t just hop on gear without a purpose, after having put time in the game.

I am not so sure about that buddy. A little research; born in 1990 and his pro-debut was in 2015 at 25 years old. He came into the lights 4 years earlier and it's safe to assume he was on gear then at 21 y.o. Tracking a normal pace to stage could easily have him on gear in his late teens. Maybe he is indirectly saying to not make the mistakes he made and if so, that's admirable.

Both of us are making some assumption and I'm sure we are both on point. Still, I don't like when Pros go off about doing gear only to compete and that comes from a guy who did compete with and without gear.
 

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Good for him. All these fake natties are filling kids’ heads with delusional aspirations that they can look like them without enhancement.

And this I could not agree with more.
 

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Good points, and I have had one good buddy ask why take gear if you're not going to compete. My response was ok, I guess women who are not models, actresses or pornstars shouldn't get breast implants either then eh?

And to Hurt's point, you say in your post his marketing demographic is teenage men. Well, it seems to me that he has somewhat of a conflict of interest then. Most teenage guys I know could hide their own easter eggs. Forget about differentiating/distinguishing the whole take my sponsors product to look this way/AAS bullshit. Not saying if you're juiced up you can't or shouldn't provide training and diet education and entertainment to that crowd. I just think you need to walk a fine line.
 

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I am not so sure about that buddy. A little research; born in 1990 and his pro-debut was in 2015 at 25 years old. He came into the lights 4 years earlier and it's safe to assume he was on gear then at 21 y.o. Tracking a normal pace to stage could easily have him on gear in his late teens. Maybe he is indirectly saying to not make the mistakes he made and if so, that's admirable.

Both of us are making some assumption and I'm sure we are both on point. Still, I don't like when Pros go off about doing gear only to compete and that comes from a guy who did compete with and without gear.

Well I never said that he didn’t jump on gear early. He clearly did. I think he’s trying to convey more of a “do as I say, not as I did” message - or in the least “if you do as I did, don’t just do it for social media likes - have a true goal to shoot for” - of course I think both aren’t ideal, because you should wait until your mid-20’s (IMO) at the earliest to introduce exogenous hormones to your body.

I think we are actually both of the same mindset and in agreement, but just coming at it from different angles.
 

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Good points, and I have had one good buddy ask why take gear if you're not going to compete. My response was ok, I guess women who are not models, actresses or pornstars shouldn't get breast implants either then eh?

And to Hurt's point, you say in your post his marketing demographic is teenage men. Well, it seems to me that he has somewhat of a conflict of interest then. Most teenage guys I know could hide their own easter eggs. Forget about differentiating/distinguishing the whole take my sponsors product to look this way/AAS bullshit. Not saying if you're juiced up you can't or shouldn't provide training and diet education and entertainment to that crowd. I just think you need to walk a fine line.

Thats a great analogy and I agree 100%
 

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I approve every thing he said. He has a responsibility and he did the right thing. None of us in his shoes and have the millions of following he has. If I was in his shoes knowing who the majority of my followers were I'd be preaching the same thing.. Except that man bun of his. lol wtf that shit
 
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I could have careless if he was or wasnt lol. But appreciate that he came out
 

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