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My friend (who refuses to use forums) is trying to balance PIP and injection volume. A bit of PIP is fine, but it would be good to know if these will likely cause PIP that will cripple him to the point of not being able to lift. His intention is to do daily injections using a 28g slin pin, and wants higher concentration brews to reduce the oil volume per pin. He's doing this to experiment with blood stability levels, and also to incorporate new injection sites that can't hold a ton of volume.

The idea in these recipes is to leverage the low viscosity and minor solvent properties of Mig840, while only using a minimum amount of solvent to thin out the hormone (which in turn also allows for more oil to be used). He has never used EO and doesn't know how his body will tolerate it, so he'd like to avoid it if possible.

I think EQ could go up to 600mg/ml without PIP, but I think Test-E at 400mg/ml might be pushing it. Any input on higher/lower concentrations he could get away with a "tolerable" level of PIP would be appreciated.

Thank you for taking the time to look.

EQ(bold. undec) 20ml total - 500mg/ml
Mig840 = 8ml
Powder/Raw = 10g
BA = 0.4ml (2%)
BB = 2ml (10%)

Test Enan. 25ml total - 400mg/ml
Mig840 = 12.6ml
Powder/Raw = 10g
BA = 0.5ml (2%)
BB = 2.5ml (10%)

Masterone prop. 66.65ml total - 150mg/ml
Mig840 = 46ml
Powder/Raw = 10g
BA = 1.33ml (2%)
BB = 10ml (15%)
 

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EQ at 600 mg without PIP is an interesting and difficult objective. This high a dose would require a quite large needle for injection as the rheology of the oil will be very viscous.
 

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You think so, even with 10% BB and using mig 840?

Miglyol 840 has a viscosity of ~10mPa @ 20 °C. For context at 20 °C; MCT oil viscosity = 29mPa, GSO viscosity = ~54mPa, sesame oil = ~65mPa, and cottonseed oil =~76mPa.

Originally I was just concerned about gear crystalizing in the muscle and not the thickness of the completed EQ brew. I thought using Mig840 as a low viscosity carrier (which also acts as a solvent) and some BB solvent would have been enough for use in a 28g, considering that EQ is liquid at room temperature.

Do you think a large needle would still be necessary for EQ @ 500mg/ml (or even 600mg) considering these factors?
 

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Bump for more feedback. Especially if thoughts on Test E @ 400mg/ml or higher.

If no one else has any input then I think I'm going to tell him to brew test at 300mg, and EQ at 400mg. I know those concentrations have no PIP.
 
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