Getting High Blood Pressure

[Popeye]

Ya I kinda just threw my situation in there, lol, sorry. My situation was a few circumstances that all hit at once and I would have been fucked if I had chose to ignore it. Sorry for confusing you. I think vette just meant to keep an eye on your HR and that it should drop back down normally. I am not going to put words in his mouth though so I will wait for him to chime in on that.

Also...I don't think the fact of you cutting down a little on water is causing your BP irregularity.

 

[3DRanger87]

Vette has given you some great advice. a well balanced diet, good water intake, cardio are some great ways to help lower your bp. I personally have seen results from the above mentioned. My family has a history of strokes and with being in my line of work you'll often find yourself in some demanding and stressful situations so high bp has been something that I've had to keep an eye on my entire life. I like AI's stuff because you can't beat it for the price and it also offers a multitude of other health benefits. It should help you out.

3D

 

[username1]

No problem. Good to know to be aware and look for any potential risks. That does sound scary never heard of that before so just wanted to clarify.

Ya I kinda just threw my situation in there, lol, sorry. My situation was a few circumstances that all hit at once and I would have been fucked if I had chose to ignore it. Sorry for confusing you. I think vette just meant to keep an eye on your HR and that it should drop back down normally. I am not going to put words in his mouth though so I will wait for him to chime in on that.

Also...I don't think the fact of you cutting down a little on water is causing your BP irregularity.

 

[username1]

Vette has given you some great advice. a well balanced diet, good water intake, cardio are some great ways to help lower your bp. I personally have seen results from the above mentioned. My family has a history of strokes and with being in my line of work you'll often find yourself in some demanding and stressful situations so high bp has been something that I've had to keep an eye on my entire life. I like AI's stuff because you can't beat it for the price and it also offers a multitude of other health benefits. It should help you out.

3D

I hope I'll be able to take that stuff there's a disclaimer that diabetics shouldn't take it and I'm not full blown diabetic but pre-diabetic and do have to watch sugar. I'm the ingredients it has dextrose and sucralose listed. I'm going to monitor my bg after I take it hope I won't have any issues.

 

[Cobra Strike]

not sure if anyone else has added this in but you can also take cialis at 10mg a day to help lower your bp...it is a vasodialator. I use it in my vitamin regime.

 

[Popeye]

not sure if anyone else has added this in but you can also take cialis at 10mg a day to help lower your bp...it is a vasodialator. I use it in my vitamin regime.

Ya I actually include cialis too. I was going to spare myself the working out with a boner jokes.

It lowers BP for reasons stated by CS. It is only taken 1/2 or 1/3 dose for ED.

It has a half life of something like 60-72 hours...I take 10-15mg eod or e3d.

 

[username1]

I had completely forgot about that! Will try that 15mg EOD for now. I will keep my progress updated.

 

[sfstud33]

My blood pressure was fine on up to 750mg per week of test. But just to be a smart ass i decided to try 1500mg - like the big boys. First week fine. Second week blood pressure went through the roof. Up to 170/70 and normally its between 110/60 - 110/70.

I donated blood and didnt do any more test for two weeks until i had BP under control. Now that i've tried the high dose, i think im going to finish the cycle off at 500mg. There does not seem to be much difference. But i do have to say, i love how i feel when im on

 

[PillarofBalance]

not sure if anyone else has added this in but you can also take cialis at 10mg a day to help lower your bp...it is a vasodialator. I use it in my vitamin regime.

I think I'll try this while I clean up my diet a bit. Just had a reading of 158/100... Back in late June I was 102/68....

Thanks drol!!!

 

[Santaklaus]

Var WILL increase blood pressure. Pretty much all AAS will. Increasing your red blood cell count will thicken your blood and increase your blood pressure. I try to keep it in the 'High Normal' range when 'On'.

Donate blood every 56 days.

Take an 81mg aspirin ed.

Drink a shitload of water and cut out sodium (that shit hides everywhere- Tuna and Cottage Cheese are awefully high in fact). Replace your electrolytes with potassium and sodium but don't overdo it. I can look at my ankles are at night and tell you if I have overdone the sodium. No shit.

Check your stims (pre-workout) at the door.

Every time I blast/cycle my blood pressure increases it is a part of the cost of blasting.

Keep your blood sugar low to minimize damage to tiny blood vessels.

Try to do your cardio because it will actually help - but ONLY with a heart rate monitor (I recommend a Polar watch/band setup).

If it gets too high, or stays elevated, or gets in to the high range - see your doctor. You can take BP meds and gear- I have a lot of friends who do. I do NOT. I do watch it close but being a little high won't hurt me so much if I eat CLEAN, watch my blood sugar levels and I am otherwise healthy.

Welcome to the game.... play safely.

Respect,
Vette


Added: 25mg ed of aromasin is a lot to still have a 47 estro level... I would not increase it but that perplexes me... I hope you are running aromasin from MP- and if so, I would ask them if they have had anyone get a 'bad batch' possibly. I run 12.5 eod and it's dead on 25 most times. I weigh right at 200lbs but weight really typically doesn't make much difference.

The odds of anavar increasing your BP are so slim you don't need to worry about it. As stated, all aas CAN increase BP but especially with Anavar, it is so unlikely I seriously doubt its the anavar over the increased levels of Testosterone. When you retain water your BP will rise. I don't know anyone that has said they retained water from Anavar. Yet if you go to WebMD and look up anavar, water retention is a "possible side effect". Then again, go look up Acetaminophen and see what "possible side effects" are listed.. its just stupid.

I promise you that Test will increase your BP much worse than anavar ever will.

 

[username1]

well at home I still seem to be in the 150's / 80's today was 160/80. However when I went to my GI doc a couple days ago I tested like 130's / 70's something like that. She asked me if I had previous issues of high bp at that number. When I was at the dentist a few weeks ago I tested around 160's / 90's so maybe the supplements are helping and my at home monitor may or may not be accurate. I asked the guy at walgreens if it's a good one, the first one i picked up a wrist watch type bp monitor he said it wasn't as accurate as the sleeve ones, so i got that one. if it's on too tight does that make any difference in giving you a higher reading? at first i was making it really tight but, when i went to the doc i noticed that they just put it on loosely.

i'm pretty sure though that i've been in the 130's range pre-blast. since i've been noticing it when i go to a doc and get tested, however nobody has said anything to me and i've never been declined to donate blood which i know they do if it's too high. though if 130's is considered pre-hypertension then maybe after this blast i should just go to a doc about it and get meds prescribed if necessary. at first i was a bit concerned since i don't have insurance but, i googled it and apparently bp meds are cheap.

 

[username1]

shit, i think my BP has finally dropped. i think i was getting those high numbers here since i wasn't checking my bp correctly i just read in the other thread somebody suggested to make sure you're sitting down and your arm is on the same level as your heart, and don't move. i just checked it and the first time it was 133/71 and then i waited about 15 min. and tested it again and it's 129/77

so these are the supps i'm taking incase anybody in the future comes to check this thread:

- 6g fish oil
- coq-10 800mg
- red yeast rice - 1200mg
- hawthorne berry - 300mg
- cialis - 15mg eod
- Ai sports nutrition - cycle support (1 scoop a day)

- NTBM - N2 Guard ( was taking only this before the above supplements and obviously it wasn't doing the job on it's own because my BP got into the 160's / 90's)

I have noticed my headaches are pretty much gone now. I was getting pretty frequent headaches but, they were short like 1 second and then gone but, seemed to be happening often. I didn't really say much since I was trying to kind of down play it, maybe shouldn't have done that. I'm thinking after the blast I'll go to a doc and have them monitor my BP and lipids regularly, since I know those things are important. I think technically even though right now it's not that high that it's considered pre-hypertension. Maybe wouldn't hurt to just go and see what they say. To be honest, in a way I'm kind of glad my blast is about to be over I don't like having to take all these tons of pills every day and night. I'd probably rather just have one BP med to take daily or whatever rather than having to choke down like 20 pills a day lol and my liver still has to process all that, so I might be fixing one thing, BP and messing up another (liver), though the scripted stuff is probably not all that easy on it, who knows.

 

[username1]

Also need to add when I was at Vitamin Shoppe the other day looking for coq-10 I found this supplement called, "blood pressure factors" it's a mix of Calcium, Magnesium and Hawthorne Berry. I'm taking this daily also, just the standard dosage, 3 pills at breakfast.

 

[3DRanger87]

Good to hear that you've got it under control brother. One less thing to worry about.

 

[username1]

Good to hear that you've got it under control brother. One less thing to worry about.

seriously didn't even think it was going to happen, cant believe it but, thanks to all the great advise here I was actually able to bring it down. now i'm prepared for next time, will know exactly what to get and if my BP goes up again will run the same supplements.

 

[username1]

I didn't mention that I had also started taking creatine when I started the var. I didn't know until recently, I heard somebody say they have blood pressure issues, and they can't even take creatine. Since, I'm on a NPP (450) / TPP (650) blast, so on more test than last time and recently I went to the dr. and the nurse complimented me on my BP lol when I checked it at home it was like 118 over something. I am still taking all those supplements I took last time but, still at that time my BP was never this low, so I'm wondering if it was the creatine.

I started 25mg dbol last monday so it's been 5 days, i checked my BP yesterday I believe and I was at 138 / 68 something like that, which according to this chart http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/medicine/blood-pressure.htm it's bascially normal range. I wonder if 5 days of dbol would be enough to raise your BP? I will keep checking it, just raised it to 40mg tonight. Will test BP in a few days.

 

[DF]

User everyone of those compounds will increase your bp. Be safe brother!

 

[hulksmash]

I wish sources would carry ACE inhibitors (versus the others because ACE I=vessel dilation, and AAS increases BP through increased blood volume, ie increased RBC count)

I would buy that shit up every cycle-

Specially since ALL AAS increases BP through RBCs..bigger vessels=lower blood pressurr

 

[hulksmash]

I didn't mention that I had also started taking creatine when I started the var. I didn't know until recently, I heard somebody say they have blood pressure issues, and they can't even take creatine. Since, I'm on a NPP (450) / TPP (650) blast, so on more test than last time and recently I went to the dr. and the nurse complimented me on my BP lol when I checked it at home it was like 118 over something. I am still taking all those supplements I took last time but, still at that time my BP was never this low, so I'm wondering if it was the creatine.

I started 25mg dbol last monday so it's been 5 days, i checked my BP yesterday I believe and I was at 138 / 68 something like that, which according to this chart http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/medicine/blood-pressure.htm it's bascially normal range. I wonder if 5 days of dbol would be enough to raise your BP? I will keep checking it, just raised it to 40mg tonight. Will test BP in a few days.

To be honest with you, you got worried for nothin-hypertension is there if you have PERSISTANT levels of 140/90MmHg...again CHRONIC systolic of 140 and above and diastolic of 90 and above...DAILY FOR MONTHS

How many days were you over 140/90? BOTH, not just one or the other.

Don't get me wrong-it's great you're watching BP; not doing so would be stupid if you're on AAS.

About creatine, and this brings me to another point-creatine is not advised for those with hypertension because creatine stresses the shit out of the kidneys

Kidneys have to excrete creatinine (by-product of creatine) AND creatine increases water retention, which causes HIGHER BP

Not only will creatine add to higher bp because of the water retention, now the kidneys have to work DOUBLE just to reach fluid homeostasis

Kidneys will already be strained from hypertension too-hypertension causes hyaline to gather up on the kidney's small arteries and arterioles, which then narrow the lumina, and VOILA! you got hyaline artiolosclerosis

From there kidney damage starts and you got Tom Prince, Flex Wheeler, Nasser, et al bodybuilders

BUT! AAS doesn't kill-its the COMBO of aas+opiates+NSAIDS+diuretics

Thats why BBer pros drop like flies nowadays (Flex got lucky) vs the 70s bbers and such

And also why I get pissed at every forum talkin about the health dangers of AAS

Its all those fuckin painkillers, NSAIDS, diuretics WITH the higher bp that AAS gives that cause the heart attacks, kidney damage and strokes..

Drop that extra shit and just do gear and you'll live long like arnie & co.

Nubret and Oliva died, but they made it to average 70s

 

[DADAWG]

To be honest with you, you got worried for nothin-hypertension is there if you have PERSISTANT levels of 140/90MmHg...again CHRONIC systolic of 140 and above and diastolic of 90 and above...DAILY FOR MONTHS

How many days were you over 140/90? BOTH, not just one or the other.

Don't get me wrong-it's great you're watching BP; not doing so would be stupid if you're on AAS.

About creatine, and this brings me to another point-creatine is not advised for those with hypertension because creatine stresses the shit out of the kidneys

Kidneys have to excrete creatinine (by-product of creatine) AND creatine increases water retention, which causes HIGHER BP

Not only will creatine add to higher bp because of the water retention, now the kidneys have to work DOUBLE just to reach fluid homeostasis

Kidneys will already be strained from hypertension too-hypertension causes hyaline to gather up on the kidney's small arteries and arterioles, which then narrow the lumina, and VOILA! you got hyaline artiolosclerosis

From there kidney damage starts and you got Tom Prince, Flex Wheeler, Nasser, et al bodybuilders

BUT! AAS doesn't kill-its the COMBO of aas+opiates+NSAIDS+diuretics

Thats why BBer pros drop like flies nowadays (Flex got lucky) vs the 70s bbers and such

And also why I get pissed at every forum talkin about the health dangers of AAS

Its all those fuckin painkillers, NSAIDS, diuretics WITH the higher bp that AAS gives that cause the heart attacks, kidney damage and strokes..

Drop that extra shit and just do gear and you'll live long like arnie & co.

Nubret and Oliva died, but they made it to average 70s

IF and i say IF anabolics kill a person it will happen over a very long time unless some moron fries his liver with insane oral doses.diuerectics and insulin can kill you almost instantly .people also dont want to give up their oral anabolics which is fine but they refuse to stop alcohol,tylenol,etc. which magnifies the danger to their liver.