Which cycle would you recommend?

[Ryu]

Looking to continue my recomp efforts after the birth of my daughter and gym closure which has sideline me into dad/dadbod mode for the last 9 weeks.

Getting back into it next week.

Stats:

Coming up on 40yr's
6'3" @ 245lbs in the pic (taken AM, post walk)
Bodyfat: 28% ish (correct me if I am wrong)

Diet transition:

Meal 1: 8:00am
60g oats, 1 tbsp almond butter, 2 servings whey, cinnamon, pink salt

Meal 2: 11:30pm
200g Chicken Breast, 200-250g mini potato (air fried), mixed vegetable stir fry (cooked in 1tbsp rice bran oil)

Meal 3: 2:00pm
2 wraps, 150g chicken breast, mixed raw veg, 5 caps EFA

*Pre-workout Meal: 4:30 to 5:30pm
60-90g oats, 1 tbsp almond butter, 2 servings whey, cinnamon, pink salt

*(90g on workout days, 60g on off days)

Post-workout Meal:
1 Kirkland Soft Chew, 1 medium banana, 2 servings whey

Meal 4: 9:00pm
100g chicken breast, 100-150g rice, 1 egg, mixed vegetables

Weekend:
Meal 1: 2-3 egg omelet with 200g chicken and mixed veggies

Meal 2: 200g steak, vegetables

Meal 3: 200g shrimp, mixed vegetables, coconut oil

Meal 4: 200g chicken, salad

Meal 5: mystery (400-500cal)

Programming;

Monday: Upper 1
Incline Machine Press: 2 warmup, 2 feeder, 3 working (3 x 8)
Flat DB Press: 1 feeder, 2 working (1 x 10, 1 x 10+8 drop set)
Pec Dc Flyes: 1 feeder, 3 working (3 x 10)
Dumbell Rows: 2 warmup, 2 feeder, 4 working (4 x 8)
Pull Ups: 1 warmup, 4 working (4 x 10)
DB Shoulder Press: 1 warmup, 1 feeder, 3 working (3 x 8)
DB Laterals: 1 warmup, 3 working (3 x 10)
DB Hammer Curls: 1 warmup, 2 working (2 x 10)
Preacher Curl: 1 feeder, 2 working (2 x 10)
Dual Handle Pushdown: 1 warmup, 1 working (2 x 10)

Tuesday: Lower 2
Lying Leg Curl: 2 warmup, 1 feeder, 3 working (3 x 8)
Squats: 2 warmup, 1 feeder, 3 working (3 x 6)
Leg Press: 1 warmup, 3 feeder, 3 working (3 x 10)
Leg Extensions: 1 feeder, 3 working (3 x 12)
Calf Raises: 2 warmup, 1 feeder, 3 working (3 x 10)

Wednesday: Off

Thursday: Upper 3
Meadowns Row: 2 warmup, 1 feeder, 3 working (3 x 8)
Seated Row: 1 feeder, 2 working (1 x 10, 1 x 10 drop set)
DB Pullover: 1 feeder set, 3 working sets (3 x 10)
DB Hex Press: 1 feeder set, 4 working sets (4 x 8)
DB Y-raises: 1 feeder set, 3 working sets (3 x 12)
Rear Delt Raise: 3 working sets (3 x 15)
Palms Up DB Curl: 1 feeder set, 2 working sets (2 x 12)
Rope PushDowns: 1 feeder, 2 working (2 x 12)
EZ Curl Skull Crusher: 1 feeder, 2 working (2 x 12)

Friday: Lower 4
Standing Leg Curls: 2 warmup, 2 feeder, 3 working (2 x 8, 1 x 8 + drop)
High & Wide Leg Press: 2 feeder, 3 working (3 x 12)
Walking Lunges: 3 working (10 forward, 10 back)
BB Stiff Leg Deadlift: 1 feeder, 3 working (3 x 8)
Calf Raise: 1 warmup, 2 feeder, 3 working (3 x 10)

Saturday: Off

Sunday: Off

Cardio:

20 min cardio after the above sessions (starting at 2 sessions and working up to all 4)
45-60min am walk

The question:

Cycle Option 1: 500mg test cyp, 500mg mast e, 200mg tren e
Cycle Option 2: 250mg test cyp, 500mg mast e, 400mg tren e

I have a pile of anadrol on hand to break some platueaus if needed but it wont be used unless I hit a wall.
Aromoasin, P5P and pile of other health goodies on hand (astragalus extract, NAC, grape seed extract, curcumin, Q10, berbarine, magnesium, calcium, multi-v, K2/D3, cialis, IP6)

Love to hear your thoughts and why.

Side note (I handle tren and gear in general very well. I am actually more aware and come on cycle for some reason)

May consider logging this here as well if its useful for anyone, including myself.

 

[Ryu]

Forgot to mention cycle length as its relative to the tren dose.

At 200mg I would be willing to go as long as 16 weeks. At 400mg I might, might be willing to go as long as 12 weeks depending on how things are looking and feeling.

Worst case, I could go 16 weeks either or depending on feedback...

 

[Ryu]

Just to update, I opted for the higher tren lower test. 2 weeks in now.

Down 3 kg with only slightly elevated BP for sides so far.

The outlined programming is brutal, feel free to give it a try. JM Warlock.

Thus concludes this thread.

 

[Methyl mike]

Looking to continue my recomp efforts after the birth of my daughter and gym closure which has sideline me into dad/dadbod mode for the last 9 weeks.

Getting back into it next week.

Stats:

Coming up on 40yr's
6'3" @ 245lbs in the pic (taken AM, post walk)
Bodyfat: 28% ish (correct me if I am wrong)

Diet transition:

Meal 1: 8:00am
60g oats, 1 tbsp almond butter, 2 servings whey, cinnamon, pink salt

Meal 2: 11:30pm
200g Chicken Breast, 200-250g mini potato (air fried), mixed vegetable stir fry (cooked in 1tbsp rice bran oil)

Meal 3: 2:00pm
2 wraps, 150g chicken breast, mixed raw veg, 5 caps EFA

*Pre-workout Meal: 4:30 to 5:30pm
60-90g oats, 1 tbsp almond butter, 2 servings whey, cinnamon, pink salt

*(90g on workout days, 60g on off days)

Post-workout Meal:
1 Kirkland Soft Chew, 1 medium banana, 2 servings whey

Meal 4: 9:00pm
100g chicken breast, 100-150g rice, 1 egg, mixed vegetables

Weekend:
Meal 1: 2-3 egg omelet with 200g chicken and mixed veggies

Meal 2: 200g steak, vegetables

Meal 3: 200g shrimp, mixed vegetables, coconut oil

Meal 4: 200g chicken, salad

Meal 5: mystery (400-500cal)

Programming;

Monday: Upper 1
Incline Machine Press: 2 warmup, 2 feeder, 3 working (3 x 8)
Flat DB Press: 1 feeder, 2 working (1 x 10, 1 x 10+8 drop set)
Pec Dc Flyes: 1 feeder, 3 working (3 x 10)
Dumbell Rows: 2 warmup, 2 feeder, 4 working (4 x 8)
Pull Ups: 1 warmup, 4 working (4 x 10)
DB Shoulder Press: 1 warmup, 1 feeder, 3 working (3 x 8)
DB Laterals: 1 warmup, 3 working (3 x 10)
DB Hammer Curls: 1 warmup, 2 working (2 x 10)
Preacher Curl: 1 feeder, 2 working (2 x 10)
Dual Handle Pushdown: 1 warmup, 1 working (2 x 10)

Tuesday: Lower 2
Lying Leg Curl: 2 warmup, 1 feeder, 3 working (3 x 8)
Squats: 2 warmup, 1 feeder, 3 working (3 x 6)
Leg Press: 1 warmup, 3 feeder, 3 working (3 x 10)
Leg Extensions: 1 feeder, 3 working (3 x 12)
Calf Raises: 2 warmup, 1 feeder, 3 working (3 x 10)

Wednesday: Off

Thursday: Upper 3
Meadowns Row: 2 warmup, 1 feeder, 3 working (3 x 8)
Seated Row: 1 feeder, 2 working (1 x 10, 1 x 10 drop set)
DB Pullover: 1 feeder set, 3 working sets (3 x 10)
DB Hex Press: 1 feeder set, 4 working sets (4 x 8)
DB Y-raises: 1 feeder set, 3 working sets (3 x 12)
Rear Delt Raise: 3 working sets (3 x 15)
Palms Up DB Curl: 1 feeder set, 2 working sets (2 x 12)
Rope PushDowns: 1 feeder, 2 working (2 x 12)
EZ Curl Skull Crusher: 1 feeder, 2 working (2 x 12)

Friday: Lower 4
Standing Leg Curls: 2 warmup, 2 feeder, 3 working (2 x 8, 1 x 8 + drop)
High & Wide Leg Press: 2 feeder, 3 working (3 x 12)
Walking Lunges: 3 working (10 forward, 10 back)
BB Stiff Leg Deadlift: 1 feeder, 3 working (3 x 8)
Calf Raise: 1 warmup, 2 feeder, 3 working (3 x 10)

Saturday: Off

Sunday: Off

Cardio:

20 min cardio after the above sessions (starting at 2 sessions and working up to all 4)
45-60min am walk

The question:

Cycle Option 1: 500mg test cyp, 500mg mast e, 200mg tren e
Cycle Option 2: 250mg test cyp, 500mg mast e, 400mg tren e

I have a pile of anadrol on hand to break some platueaus if needed but it wont be used unless I hit a wall.
Aromoasin, P5P and pile of other health goodies on hand (astragalus extract, NAC, grape seed extract, curcumin, Q10, berbarine, magnesium, calcium, multi-v, K2/D3, cialis, IP6)

Love to hear your thoughts and why.

Side note (I handle tren and gear in general very well. I am actually more aware and come on cycle for some reason)

May consider logging this here as well if its useful for anyone, including myself.

Nice build. I would go with option 2 only because you're a little fat and option 2 might help out with body comp a bit faster than option 1.

 

[Intel.imperitive]

go for the higher Tren cycle. More is almost always better