Hey Trt Guys. Pre cycle/trt levels.

[20YO]

currently at 350. awaiting a more comprehensive blood test. syptomatic, but current gp and endo unwilling to treat... offered antihypertensive, ssri, pde5 inhibitor combination instead... fuark

 

[20YO]

interesting dude... never heard head trauma discussed in hypogonadism aetiology. wonder if ive taken a few too many blows to head at boxing

 

[dawgslappa]

159 tt/10.33 free t, pre. Currently at 509tt/28.08ft. 2 months in to trt. 45yo.

 

[Onlythebestwilldo]

159 tt/10.33 free t, pre. Currently at 509tt/28.08ft. 2 months in to trt. 45yo.

What you using and dosage to get those levels??

 

[dawgslappa]

What you using and dosage to get those levels??

200mg test cyp e10d, anastrozole 1mg daily.

 

[DF]

200mg test cyp e10d, anastrozole 1mg daily.

Damn brother hope that's a typo with the AI. If not go have your E2 checked. You shouldn't need that much Adex.

 

[dawgslappa]

The AI number is legit. I thought it was a bit much too. Waiting to get the e2 level back from the lab. I had to ask for it as they didn't have e2 on the list of things to check on the last round of bloods. I have a level check in a few weeks anyways, so we'll see what's up soon.

 

[DF]

On my trt protocol of 125mg TestC every 5 days. I was running 1mg Adex every 5 days I tanked my estro to 6. Now I don't run any AI on that protocol. I was having sympt of low E as well. My joints & tendons felt like shit. Good to hear your getting the level checked.

The AI number is legit. I thought it was a bit much too. Waiting to get the e2 level back from the lab. I had to ask for it as they didn't have e2 on the list of things to check on the last round of bloods. I have a level check in a few weeks anyways, so we'll see what's up soon.

 

[PFM]

Damn brother hope that's a typo with the AI. If not go have your E2 checked. You shouldn't need that much Adex.

Unless he has some rare resistance to Anastrozolol that is a ridiculous amount of Adex.

 

[dawgslappa]

Wow, got my e2 level back today and it's pretty much non-existant >1. This surprises me a bit because this is the 1st time in a while that my joints don't hurt & I feel fairly decent.

 

[Cashout]

Wow, got my e2 level back today and it's pretty much non-existant >1. This surprises me a bit because this is the 1st time in a while that my joints don't hurt & I feel fairly decent.

I'll write this again and risk the wrath of those who subscribe to "common knowledge" regard male estrogen levels. Personally, I used an OTC AI - ATD to keep my E2 less than 6 for 18 months without experiencing a single joint pain or ache of any kind. I've done the same type of things with guys that I am prepping for contests as well. In fact, it is part of my contest prep regime.

IMO, there is a tremendous amount of "overkill" attributed to the "crashed E" phenomena among users of AAS.

 

[DF]

I'll write this again and risk the wrath of those who subscribe to "common knowledge" regard male estrogen levels. Personally, I used an OTC AI - ATD to keep my E2 less than 6 for 18 months without experiencing a single joint pain or ache of any kind. I've done the same type of things with guys that I am prepping for contests as well. In fact, it is part of my contest prep regime.

IMO, there is a tremendous amount of "overkill" attributed to the "crashed E" phenomena among users of AAS.

I can say this about myself & low E. My knees were stiff & had tendonitis in both elbows. I do feel much better without using an AI while on my trt protocol. I am willing to bet as with most things everyone may react differently.

Anyway my point to the OP was that taking 1mg Adex/day is way more than is needed & could pose problems other than low E. I believe as you do Cashout try to do with the least amount of meds b/c they all have sides.

 

[DF]

Wow, got my e2 level back today and it's pretty much non-existant >1. This surprises me a bit because this is the 1st time in a while that my joints don't hurt & I feel fairly decent.

At your trt dose you may not even require an AI.

 

[Cashout]

At your trt dose you may not even require an AI.

Yup - if you can adjust down the test to keep levels between 700-1000 and skip the AI altogether, that would be the healthiest option for the long term.

 

[DF]

I do agree that people can get too hung up on their E2 numbers. Getting your E2 number where you'd like it can be a daunting task. Especially when you add other compounds into the mix.

 

[Bugspray]

So what are the symptoms u should watch out for before worrying about e2?

 

[Bugspray]

Pre test 175

Protocol
100mg test enanthate e5d, anastrozole 1mg e5d, hcg 2500 units e5d, b12 1mg e3d,
Been on for 6 weeks haven't had blood work done since starting trt.

Thinking about doing 200mg test e5d for 10 weeks.. A little cycle.

 

[dawgslappa]

Thanks for the feedback guys, much appreciated. I'm gonna back off the AI a bit and redo bloods in a month.

 

[DF]

Be careful if your on doc scripted trt you could screw yourself. Also you may want to hold off until you see how your current protocol works out.

Pre test 175

Protocol
100mg test enanthate e5d, anastrozole 1mg e5d, hcg 2500 units e5d, b12 1mg e3d,
Been on for 6 weeks haven't had blood work done since starting trt.

Thinking about doing 200mg test e5d for 10 weeks.. A little cycle.

 

[dawgslappa]

Latest bloods, 10 weeks in to TRT:
TT:1330, FT: 49.59, E2: 5.1, SHBG: 23.4

Currently on 100mg test c e10d, Anastrozole 1mg m/w/f.