Is Pinnacle heading the same road as uncle z?

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SFGiants

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Ology looks like its on a Canadian server. This source has an online store where customers register their account...

Dominoes when this guy goes down.

I think you're right about the customer base though.

Isn't a Canadian server a real bad idea?
 
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There are only a few BBign sites with sources that are hosted on domestic servers... this is one of the dumbest moves in history. Not sure if Ology is one of those boards, but it does not have a good track record.

Couple things...

1. $55 for a 10ml vial of test cyp or Enth is very expensive. My private lab that I stick with charges $38 per 10ml cyp or enth and that's more expensive than most of the sources I know of. I go with this lab because the quality is unmatched and will never be matched IMO.

2. Is pinnacle really overseas? I thought for sure they are domestic, which is a red flag. If you get a shipment from them and it takes only a few days then it's domestic.

3. Bigger volume of orders means they will need to hire more people to help with shipping, brewing, etc or else suffer customer service setbacks. If they hire more people, that's just a few more people that have a chance of turning them over.

4. Overall this is not a good move and I feel like most of the people that are crazy about pinnacle gear just don't know any better. It's simply the best source they have come across when there are far better and cheaper sources available. I'm sorry to say this but I tell it like it is. The simple fact is that the majority of bros who haven't been around for a long long time don't have access to the best sources and don't know what top notch quality gear is like. It's just a fact.

Pac-Man the owner is in China, money goes to him and then reshippers here who have stock ship out. The real risk on on the reshipers, not sure what the charge is for that but I am thinking it is distribution same as the dealer?

As for pinns qiuality, I've tried one or two labs over the years ;) they kick the shit out of all of them in quality. Price not so good but the gear itself is crazy good, get yoursel a little of their var then come tell me what ya think.

I agree that it is not a good move and already made a stink with pac-man over it. I am a big supporter of theirs but with that banner saying YO feds look at me, not sure if I can support them publicly anymore. When they were getting started they did need and appreciate my backing but at this point the cat has grown into a lion and pac-man might just say "fuck off old guy" lol
 

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here is some info on what you were talking about
 

AndroSport

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here is some info on what you were talking about
There ya go... too busy to type into the google box today ;)

They def had some good gear and a good reputation... I can understand why another up-and-coming UGL would want to emulate in more ways than one. Aside from the getting busted part... I think.
 
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Issue resolved after a few emails back and forth pac man has agreed to pull down the banner immediately!!!

Why he listens to my old ass still I don't know but apparently he still puts value in my advice
 
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pinn itself is on a server with a nation that does not freely cooperate with the usa, paid using throw away cards and fake names. So no issues there
 

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Zeek ur respected :)
 

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Or if a lab advertises a large "sale" its a red flag for me. I've seen many labs over the years run a big sale, collect as much cash as they can and then disappear for a bit only to open up again under a different name. I'm certainly not implying this will happen with Pinn. I know nothing about them and have never had any dealings with them. Just what I've seen in the past.

This is what see with them going open like that... The big sale, then... Gone.
 

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Issue resolved after a few emails back and forth pac man has agreed to pull down the banner immediately!!!

Why he listens to my old ass still I don't know but apparently he still puts value in my advice

Thats fucking awesome. Im glad they took your advice.
 
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Issue resolved after a few emails back and forth pac man has agreed to pull down the banner immediately!!!

Why he listens to my old ass still I don't know but apparently he still puts value in my advice

woooow big zeek runnin thangs! whey to go
 

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Issue resolved after a few emails back and forth pac man has agreed to pull down the banner immediately!!!

Why he listens to my old ass still I don't know but apparently he still puts value in my advice

Well man better check again because the banner is still up under the forums! Not sure where else but it is still there! Just so u know zeek!
 

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Issue resolved after a few emails back and forth pac man has agreed to pull down the banner immediately!!!

Why he listens to my old ass still I don't know but apparently he still puts value in my advice

Lol - Whats goin on here zeek? The old boy listens to your every word huh? He another one of your protégés? ;)

I'm just given ya a hard time but I'm glad he is taking heed to your warning/recommendation. I would really hate to see either of the two previously forecasted scenarios come to fruition... i.e.: 1) experiencing the growing pains, as any natural business would, from growing too big too fast and in turn seeing good customers & supporters have to suffer through it or 2) The worst of all, get busted by LE and go down completely and then loose their good rep along with all their customers.

Making it something difficult to get to (i.e.: not every tom, dick & harry having access to a source) not only weeds out the fuckers trying to ruin it for all... but like the old adage goes "the best of the fruits are the hardest to reach... at the top of the tree" or some BS like that lol. Low hanging fruit is easy to pick off and doesn't taste so good because you didn't work for it. I think it would actually help with reputation and repeat customers if its not something everyone & their grandma can get. It also takes out some of the "inexperienced user" factor who more problems occur with I'd presume.

Ok I'm done rambling... but good on ya Zeek!
 

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It takes a little while bro. Plus if it is cached on your pc it could still come up until you clean it or do a power refresh.
 

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Gives me alot more faith knowing that they listen to Zeek and the customers. Pretty quick results too lol.
 

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Gives me alot more faith knowing that they listen to Zeek and the customers. Pretty quick results too lol.

Sorry man fat thumbs small phone accidently hit disliked post! See if they can change it? Sorry bro liked the post and accidently hit all three!
 

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Well man better check again because the banner is still up under the forums! Not sure where else but it is still there! Just so u know zeek!

I'm sure it takes more than a few minutes to "undo" all of the stuff that goes into having a banner add running on a constant rotation on a big site. Or at minimum it probably landed on a busy dude's long list of "things to do". I know its all hosted through a duplicatable platform via vBulletin but if someone wants a banner down from one of my websites even with me controlling everything its not something i can go do in 10 seconds.

I could be wrong because I have not worked with this platform. But "immediately" when messing with websites, at least complicated ones, usually comes down to "are we going to loose or be prevented from making money if we don't to this right now in the next 5 minutes?" if not then it's whenever we can get it done.

Just saying thats how it goes for me and my eCommerce site(s) lol
 

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Sorry man fat thumbs small phone accidently hit disliked post! See if they can change it? Sorry bro liked the post and accidently hit all three!

Dammit, My FIRST DISLIKE!
 

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Dammit, My FIRST DISLIKE!

You're a mod... you should be able to undo it right?

Kinda like you "undid" my rep points when you banned me for 29hrs you blood-thirty animal ;)

When do I get them back :( lol
 
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