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Ok so I've talked to several on the board, mainly thru PMs, about this over the past couple of years off and on. Figured Id see if anyone might have any insight on this. It appears that my body metabolizes the hormones or simply rejects them. POB would be a good comment on this as I have talked to him probably more than anyone on this.
LET ME MIND YOU, I AM TYPE 1 DIABETIC. Not sure how much this will play a roll but I know there are a ton of Type1s that cycle.
1st cycle ever was simply Test at 500mg/wk....went great. only sides I ever got was water retention and some itchy nips. No libido increase. Strength was up
Several more cycles over the course of years. Usually they were one of the following:
1) Test P, Mast P, Tren A 350/wk. another was 500wk. another was 1000mg/wk (more like 1250 TP, 1000mg TrenA/MastP.... this was for 8wks after 6wks on the 500mg/wk)
2) Test E, Deca 500mg/wk.
3) Test E, NPP 500mg/wk
4) Test C, Tren E, Mast E 600mg/wk (current)
dbol, winstrol, anavar, adrol mixed into them as well.
DNP got me good tho, I will say that. Sweated my ass off in summer. I slept fine tho, other than a few nights tossing to find a cool spot on the bed. But never really drenched anything. Only lost about 3lbs tho which is the weird thing but it made me sweat like a mofo
Ok so lets get to it... I have never had any sides really from anything. NO deca dick. Tren gives me ZERO sides regardless of whether its at 300mg/wk or when I took 1000mg/wk Ace. THe 1st time I took Tren, I got good results for about 6wks and ever sense then, I get nothing, literally nothing, not fat loss (diet controlled with help), strength was never noted, no sweats/insomnia/aggression/etc. Never got anything from Winstrol other than it making me pee a ton, was at low bf% and really didnt see anything. Im currently taking dbol (I have taken it 1 other time in 4yrs) at 100mg/day and all I get is an itchy back. But anything I take, it really seems it effects me for minimal weeks and then there is no response to anything at all, other than the Test.
I get bloods drawn on each cycle, test is always above the range with PrivateMDLabs and with the tren the RBC is high. I do get a tightness of the chest with a little difficulty with the breathing, but I am still able to do pretty good cardio. Liver/Kidney levels usually higher with on an oral, to be expected. Libido is thru the roof about for 2-3wks after the Test kicks in but then its gone. Estrogen is in check per the blood levels as well.
It really seems like my body either does 1 of 2 things:
1) uses the hormones and becomes accustom to them pretty quick and normalizes or
2) simply rejects everything other than test and kills it somehow.
Mind you, I have given the same products to close friends of mine for theirs, no issues and loves it. Bloods and this show that its not fake. Mind you, I have taken Clen on 2 occasions, 1: normalized methods and 2: took 150-200mcg/day and got nothing, not even hand shakes. Thought it was crap so gave it away, dude had shakes for days. Also mind you I can take 6 Monsters in a day and not feel anything, I dont do that anymore, I avoid them all together. 200mg caffeine pills do nothing. So as you can see, its not just hormones, its really anything that I put in there. Taken 3 medical pain killers that was supposed to knock me out during heavy leg contractions (theres a thread somewhere about it where my arms and legs lock up in the muscles and do not relax for about 30mins) and never knocked me out,.
So seeing if anyone has any thoughts about this. Please no "its fake" because that isnt the issue. Or "you dont see sides, thats great" because Id love no sides as long as I get more benefits from it. But really, the tren doesnt do the strength or lean (and yes, I have worked with 3 nutritionist while on cycle, 1 of them being from the board). Its more like a guessing game, which is why I keep trying to find that right number to see if that helps with getting better results.
Mets
LET ME MIND YOU, I AM TYPE 1 DIABETIC. Not sure how much this will play a roll but I know there are a ton of Type1s that cycle.
1st cycle ever was simply Test at 500mg/wk....went great. only sides I ever got was water retention and some itchy nips. No libido increase. Strength was up
Several more cycles over the course of years. Usually they were one of the following:
1) Test P, Mast P, Tren A 350/wk. another was 500wk. another was 1000mg/wk (more like 1250 TP, 1000mg TrenA/MastP.... this was for 8wks after 6wks on the 500mg/wk)
2) Test E, Deca 500mg/wk.
3) Test E, NPP 500mg/wk
4) Test C, Tren E, Mast E 600mg/wk (current)
dbol, winstrol, anavar, adrol mixed into them as well.
DNP got me good tho, I will say that. Sweated my ass off in summer. I slept fine tho, other than a few nights tossing to find a cool spot on the bed. But never really drenched anything. Only lost about 3lbs tho which is the weird thing but it made me sweat like a mofo
Ok so lets get to it... I have never had any sides really from anything. NO deca dick. Tren gives me ZERO sides regardless of whether its at 300mg/wk or when I took 1000mg/wk Ace. THe 1st time I took Tren, I got good results for about 6wks and ever sense then, I get nothing, literally nothing, not fat loss (diet controlled with help), strength was never noted, no sweats/insomnia/aggression/etc. Never got anything from Winstrol other than it making me pee a ton, was at low bf% and really didnt see anything. Im currently taking dbol (I have taken it 1 other time in 4yrs) at 100mg/day and all I get is an itchy back. But anything I take, it really seems it effects me for minimal weeks and then there is no response to anything at all, other than the Test.
I get bloods drawn on each cycle, test is always above the range with PrivateMDLabs and with the tren the RBC is high. I do get a tightness of the chest with a little difficulty with the breathing, but I am still able to do pretty good cardio. Liver/Kidney levels usually higher with on an oral, to be expected. Libido is thru the roof about for 2-3wks after the Test kicks in but then its gone. Estrogen is in check per the blood levels as well.
It really seems like my body either does 1 of 2 things:
1) uses the hormones and becomes accustom to them pretty quick and normalizes or
2) simply rejects everything other than test and kills it somehow.
Mind you, I have given the same products to close friends of mine for theirs, no issues and loves it. Bloods and this show that its not fake. Mind you, I have taken Clen on 2 occasions, 1: normalized methods and 2: took 150-200mcg/day and got nothing, not even hand shakes. Thought it was crap so gave it away, dude had shakes for days. Also mind you I can take 6 Monsters in a day and not feel anything, I dont do that anymore, I avoid them all together. 200mg caffeine pills do nothing. So as you can see, its not just hormones, its really anything that I put in there. Taken 3 medical pain killers that was supposed to knock me out during heavy leg contractions (theres a thread somewhere about it where my arms and legs lock up in the muscles and do not relax for about 30mins) and never knocked me out,.
So seeing if anyone has any thoughts about this. Please no "its fake" because that isnt the issue. Or "you dont see sides, thats great" because Id love no sides as long as I get more benefits from it. But really, the tren doesnt do the strength or lean (and yes, I have worked with 3 nutritionist while on cycle, 1 of them being from the board). Its more like a guessing game, which is why I keep trying to find that right number to see if that helps with getting better results.
Mets
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