Test Cyp - First Cycle Advice/Criticism

[TylerM1992]

Any Canadians here who know the steps to getting blood tested? Is it covered under health care and do I have to go through a GP first and then a lab or straight to a lab?

 

[SuperBane]

Go 16 weeks. First cycle of test is 10-16 weeks depending on ester.
get bloods checked after about 4
youre carrying more fat if you had any symptoms during puberty of gyno you will more than likely convert to E easily.
I use aromasin personally.

Dont listen to too much shit spewed on the internet from parrots. Regurgitating shit they read. Google your questions chance are high that they have been asked befor plenty of times over and you can draw your own conclusions from the information you read. Also Most of these guys on the internet on a lot of these boards are weak or fat or both. Listen to ECKSRATED

 

[Gibsonator]

wait did you say "boy's"?! we are manly men here sukka

 

[TylerM1992]

Sorry man hah

 

[John Ziegler]

Go 12 weeks if you are looking for a best chance at a full recovery

Go 16 weeks if youre one of these guys that is weak as fuk like a bitch unless they are on 500mg or more & recovery isnt a priority

 

[John Ziegler]

Edit.........

 

[Maijah]

Run it 16 weeks

 

[Mythos]

Like Jin said, invest in getting labs. You're going to want a pre-cycle and definitely at least one on cycle to help you gauge your E2 and AI dose among other things. Labs are a great resource..not sure how easy it is to get them in canada, hopefully someone here can help you with that.
Also, I'd advise donating blood in the back 3rd of your cycle, especially if you're going more than 12.

 

[John Ziegler]

12 weeks first cycle test c <----- logical steroid user

16 weeks first cycle test c <------ steroid abuser not worried about the aftermath

 

[TylerM1992]

Bloods are actually extremely difficult to get in Canada. I went to the doc today and its at their discretion. We don't have private labs and since our system is single payer, the government isn't willing to just throw tax dollars around for lab test just because a patient wants them. I will find a way to get the bloods, some how some way!

 

[Mythos]

Bloods are actually extremely difficult to get in Canada. I went to the doc today and its at their discretion. We don't have private labs and since our system is single payer, the government isn't willing to just throw tax dollars around for lab test just because a patient wants them. I will find a way to get the bloods, some how some way!

i did a little reading on this..looks like your best options are going to a naturopath or finding a good doc that you can be honest with. Or you can make a drive to the across the border and use PrivateMD. Im guessing this isn't practical in alberta.

 

[ECKSRATED]

12 weeks first cycle test c <----- logical steroid user

16 weeks first cycle test c <------ steroid abuser not worried about the aftermath

We get it z. We know what YOUR opinion on this matter is. Why 12 weeks and not 10?? It's only two more weeks right? How r u so cetrain he'll recover from 12 weeks anyways???

Like i said before the difference of two weeks is not gonna make a difference. It's up to him and he sounds smart enough to decide for himself.

U start getting all butt hurt and calling people names like a little fuking child. These are opinions. There's no definites in this game so say your OPINION and move on even if u don't agree with others opinions.

God damn you're worse than a broad some times.

 

[Jin]

12 weeks first cycle test c <----- logical steroid user

16 weeks first cycle test c <------ steroid abuser not worried about the aftermath

Z, these types of Black and white labels aren't helpful for a new user. Fine for a debate with Ecks in a different setting.

OP has been extremely thorough in his research and planning. He shows all the signs of becoming a "logical" and responsible AAS user.

What if he decides to run 15 or even 16 weeks? All of a sudden he's reckless and and "abuser" even though he's done better planning and research than 95% of the people wanting to run cycles? It's important we choose our words wisely when we're advising new users.

 

[ToolSteel]

If you’re as worried about recovery as Ziegler seems to be you’d better just throw everything away before you start.

 

[John Ziegler]

Z, these types of Black and white labels aren't helpful for a new user. Fine for a debate with Ecks in a different setting.

OP has been extremely thorough in his research and planning. He shows all the signs of becoming a "logical" and responsible AAS user.

What if he decides to run 15 or even 16 weeks? All of a sudden he's reckless and and "abuser" even though he's done better planning and research than 95% of the people wanting to run cycles? It's important we choose our words wisely when we're advising new users.

Jin,

Let me ask you this

Do you think it is possible for a guy like the op that is going to run his first cycle

to achieve exceptional results with 500mg for 12 weeks ?

 

[John Ziegler]

If you’re as worried about recovery as Ziegler seems to be you’d better just throw everything away before you start.

being on the safer side isnt too popular around here is it ?

 

[TylerM1992]

Went back to another walk in clinic tonight. Told the doc about all the "symptoms" ive been experiencing regarding low test. She gave me a referal to a lab to have bloods done. Ill just switch up the clinics mid cycle and after pct in order to obtain bloods. Shouldn't be an issue. Thanks for the advice guys. Keep the convo going, enjoying the opinions and info.

 

[TylerM1992]

Also, found a nurse friend who's going to inject for me. So that takes away the stress of that part. Im not scared of needles, just dont wanna **** it up. So she will kinda give me the how to, do a couple for me and i should be good to go.

 

[Bro Bundy]

Also, found a nurse friend who's going to inject for me. So that takes away the stress of that part. Im not scared of needles, just dont wanna **** it up. So she will kinda give me the how to, do a couple for me and i should be good to go.

This is a horrible move .. The less people that know your business the better .. you need to learn to inject yourself

 

[Jin]

Jin,

Let me ask you this

Do you think it is possible for a guy like the op that is going to run his first cycle

to achieve exceptional results with 500mg for 12 weeks ?

Not only possible. Probable.

being on the safer side isnt too popular around here is it ?

I disagree. In general I think we are responsible, reasonable and safe. When people are reckless they get called out.

Each individual has evaluate the risk/reward for themselves. You are entitled to your opinion but your earlier comment isn't fact. It's opinion.

Running a 15 week first cycle isn't reckless or unsafe. It does hold slightly more risk than a shorter cycle.