Delayed upper leg pain

[metal]

I over did the other day pushed myself too hard on the squats. After a two day delay pain has developed on the front of my upper leg and a little to the inside. Its tough to go up one stair on that left leg. Today new chiropractor said it is in the back not the leg and is an information issue not the muscle. He gave me some laser therapy on the back and tried to charge $60 without letting me know ahead of time. I am not going back to him and try and heal myself with hot and cold and massage. He said the delay was because it took time for inflammation to build up in the back. Any thoughts appreciated. I am an older guy.

 

[dk8594]

I went to a chiropractor once who wanted me to put magnets on my head and walk in circles.

Do you really want to hear my thoughts on them?

My advice….. rest. You had a good squat day. You should be sore.

 

[The Phoenix]

I went to a chiropractor once who wanted me to put magnets on my head and walk in circles.

Do you really want to hear my thoughts on them?

My advice….. rest. You had a good squat day. You should be sore.

the magnets I saw the naturopathic doctor prescribe once were steel ball magnets placed in the ear conch.

 

[FlyingPapaya]

the magnets I saw the naturopathic doctor prescribe once were steel ball magnets placed in the ear conch.

 

[silentlemon1011]

I over did the other day pushed myself too hard on the squats. After a two day delay pain has developed on the front of my upper leg and a little to the inside. Its tough to go up one stair on that left leg. Today new chiropractor said it is in the back not the leg and is an information issue not the muscle. He gave me some laser therapy on the back and tried to charge $60 without letting me know ahead of time. I am not going back to him and try and heal myself with hot and cold and massage. He said the delay was because it took time for inflammation to build up in the back. Any thoughts appreciated. I am an older guy.

Yeah
Go to a real doctor
Or a PT
Chiros are retards

 

[DF]

I over did the other day pushed myself too hard on the squats. After a two day delay pain has developed on the front of my upper leg and a little to the inside. Its tough to go up one stair on that left leg. Today new chiropractor said it is in the back not the leg and is an information issue not the muscle. He gave me some laser therapy on the back and tried to charge $60 without letting me know ahead of time. I am not going back to him and try and heal myself with hot and cold and massage. He said the delay was because it took time for inflammation to build up in the back. Any thoughts appreciated. I am an older guy.

It's possible that you pinched the nerve in your back. Yes, this can cause radicular pain into the leg, goin ect......

You need to differentiate muscular pain vs nerve pain. If your thigh is tender to the touch it's most likely muscular.

 

[DF]

Also not all Chiros are fuks just like any other profession.

 

[IronSoul]

It's possible that you pinched the nerve in your back. Yes, this can cause radicular pain into the leg, goin ect......

You need to differentiate muscular pain vs nerve pain. If your thigh is tender to the touch it's most likely muscular.

This ^ I would definitely get with your primary care doc and go from there if you need to see a PT. I’d take some anti inflammatory meds and a nice hot epsom salt bath. Rest up man


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[silentlemon1011]

Also not all Chiros are fuks just like any other profession.

No other medical "Proffesion" would start a treatment plan without a diagnosis/diagnostic imaging to confirm

Imagine its a herniated disk and they do fast manipulation?

That could end up making it significantly worse.

I see it every day on the boards, Chiro starts herniation treatment without CT or MRI
Chiro sends for Xray for her iated disc.

All i know is, if we look at the data, there are pretty much zero correlated cases of a chiro fixing a herniation... that is not in line with standard metrics of minor herniations sorting themselves out

In fact
A canadian Lawsuit is ongoing
Thr data unequivocally showed that success/healing rates for LITERALLY DOING NOTHING AT ALL was higher... than seeking a Chiro

A couch, its empirically better for you than a chiro

 

[DF]

No other medical "Proffesion" would start a treatment plan without a diagnosis/diagnostic imaging to confirm

Imagine its a herniated disk and they do fast manipulation?

That could end up making it significantly worse.

I see it every day on the boards, Chiro starts herniation treatment without CT or MRI
Chiro sends for Xray for her iated disc.

All i know is, if we look at the data, there are pretty much zero correlated cases of a chiro fixing a herniation... that is not in line with standard metrics of minor herniations sorting themselves out

In fact
A canadian Lawsuit is ongoing
Thr data unequivocally showed that success/healing rates for LITERALLY DOING NOTHING AT ALL was higher... than seeking a Chiro

A couch, its empirically better for you than a chiro

Good luck getting the insurance to pay for an MRI without conservative care done first.

 

[DF]

And doubtful that manipulation will make a herniation worse.

 

[DF]

Yes, X-rays first are the protocol.

 

[silentlemon1011]

Good luck getting the insurance to pay for an MRI without conservative care done first.

PT
Doctor - Sports specialist.
Not a chiro.

Also on an interesting side note
Turns out a massage is better at relieving pain than a chiro

ACP Journals

So even their ONE positive (Pain relief) turns out to be less than a massage... and a massage is less dangerous

And doubtful that manipulation will make a herniation worse.

No.

Chiropractic care and risk for acute lumbar disc herniation: a population-based self-controlled case series study - PubMed

Both chiropractic and primary medical care were associated with an increased risk for acute LDH requiring ED visit and early surgery. Our analysis suggests that patients with prodromal back pain from a developing disc herniation likely seek healthcare from both chiropractors and PCPs before full...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Yes, X-rays first are the protocol.

Not with symptoms of Disk herniations
CT or MRI

Using an Xray to diagnose a disk herniation is like asking you to open an old fashioned bottle of coke with a bottle opener to diagnose a missing arm
CT or MRI will be required anyways (Pending the patients history... what their proffesion is etc)

Statistically
Its better to never go near a chiropractor

Id suggest doing some additional research
what i out ou there was juat the tip of the iceberg

There are studies that have had an elapsed tomed of 20 years that clearly indicate what ive said.

I saw a 60ish study META as well that provided the same data, but i dont have the time to search for it and download it, feel free

 

[DF]

PT
Doctor - Sports specialist.
Not a chiro.

Also on an interesting side note
Turns out a massage is better at relieving pain than a chiro

ACP Journals

So even their ONE positive (Pain relief) turns out to be less than a massage... and a massage is less dangerous

No.

Chiropractic care and risk for acute lumbar disc herniation: a population-based self-controlled case series study - PubMed

Both chiropractic and primary medical care were associated with an increased risk for acute LDH requiring ED visit and early surgery. Our analysis suggests that patients with prodromal back pain from a developing disc herniation likely seek healthcare from both chiropractors and PCPs before full...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Not with symptoms of Disk herniations
CT or MRI

Using an Xray to diagnose a disk herniation is like asking you to open an old fashioned bottle of coke with a bottle opener to diagnose a missing arm
CT or MRI will be required anyways (Pending the patients history... what their proffesion is etc)

Statistically
Its better to never go near a chiropractor

Id suggest doing some additional research
what i out ou there was juat the tip of the iceberg

There are studies that have had an elapsed tomed of 20 years that clearly indicate what ive said.

I saw a 60ish study META as well that provided the same data, but i dont have the time to search for it and download it, feel free

I'm telling you! Insurance will not authorize an MRI unless conservative care has been done. PT, Chiro ect.... you'd have to be losing control of your bladder/bowels....

I know this and you are ignorant.

 

[snake]

I'm telling you! Insurance will not authorize an MRI unless conservative care has been done. PT, Chiro ect.... you'd have to be losing control of your bladder/bowels....

I know this and you are ignorant.

DF is right. Take his word or get stuck with a 2k MRI bill.

 

[silentlemon1011]

I'm telling you! Insurance will not authorize an MRI unless conservative care has been done. PT, Chiro ect.... you'd have to be losing control of your bladder/bowels....

I know this and you are ignorant.

I enjoyed the portion where you ignored everything else i said
Then proceeded to call me ignorant
That was fun
I mean, the Xray portion was like 10% of what i was saying, but its good to focus on the small things i supposr.

As for "Conservative care"
Conservative care-

Massage therapy
Physio Therepy
Sports physician
Chiropractic

3 out of 4 of those are proven to help

List of definitions in regard to insurance practices

Trusted Information on Back Pain and Neck Pain

www.spine-health.com

Alternatively
You could seek out your GP/Family doctor and get them to recomend a specialist, the specialist would typically then be able to requisition an MRI or CT with the blessings of insurance.

Especially since a specialist can report to insurance that the total cost of diagnostics will be less in the case of clear symptoms of a herniation.

Ill refrain from name calling, as resorting to that is generally an admission of being wrong

And im not.

 

[silentlemon1011]

DF is right. Take his word or get stuck with a 2k MRI bill.

Like i said
There are other ways

However
My major point (Being ignored)

Is that Chiros are useless

To get an Xray from your GP
Sure
Why not
Doesnt hurt

My point is chiros are quacks and the data proves it

 

[DF]

I enjoyed the portion where you ignored everything else i said
Then proceeded to call me ignorant
That was fun
I mean, the Xray portion was like 10% of what i was saying, but its good to focus on the small things i supposr.

As for "Conservative care"
Conservative care-

Massage therapy
Physio Therepy
Sports physician
Chiropractic

3 out of 4 of those are proven to help

List of definitions in regard to insurance practices

Trusted Information on Back Pain and Neck Pain

www.spine-health.com

Alternatively
You could seek out your GP/Family doctor and get them to recomend a specialist, the specialist would typically then be able to requisition an MRI or CT with the blessings of insurance.

Especially since a specialist can report to insurance that the total cost of diagnostics will be less in the case of clear symptoms of a herniation.

Ill refrain from name calling, as resorting to that is generally an admission of being wrong

And i

Why would I look at any of your BS posted?

You are talking about something you know nothing about... That's why I said ignorant. That's not name calling it's fact.

 

[snake]

Like i said
There are other ways

However
My major point (Being ignored)

Is that Chiros are useless

To get an Xray from your GP
Sure
Why not
Doesnt hurt

My point is chiros are quacks and the data proves it

Brother, I'm not here to change anyone's mind and most certainly someone that is that adamite on a subject as you are. I can only tell those who have not made their mind up that if done by a good Chiropractor, it can help you heal.

I recently had a dull hip pain that would wake me up at night. Went to my Ortho who did my shoulder a few years back and he sent me to a Chiropractor. He said give this guy a try, he has some new equipment that is 10x better than a TENS. He put me on this table that used magnets and then adjusted me. 6 visits and done.

 

[Send0]

I'm telling you! Insurance will not authorize an MRI unless conservative care has been done. PT, Chiro ect.... you'd have to be losing control of your bladder/bowels....

I know this and you are ignorant.

Not trying to be contrary; but I had an MRI approved without conservative care being done.

Granted my MRI was for my shoulder and not my spine. I have no idea if that makes a difference.