Recovering from multiple short cycles vs fewer long ones

[widehips71]

Looking for input from anyone with experience recovering from multiple short cycles (4-6 weeks) over the course of say, a year, versus recovering from one really long one. Did you feel any benefit to recovering just once a year after maybe a 4-6 months on, over being shut down and trying to recover over and over during the same time frame? I imagine sides from the short ones would be considerably reduced vs the longer cycles, but would there be any benefit to multiple easier recoveries vs that one hard one?

 

[BigGameHunter]

Ive never set out to run a short cycle but have been interrupted a few times for a host of reasons. The recovery is easier but IMO not worth the trouble to run a short one on purpose. Just when things got rolling it was over, it use to really make me wonder what if and that made recovery even more sour. Especially when I considered the gear wasted. Ive thought about this a lot from time to time because I remember being in very good cardiovascular shape at those times. I cant say the short cycle had anything to do with it though. I prefer 12 weeks 16 at the most that has always been where I had my best progress during and after the cycle.

Are you considering a couple of short cycles WH?

 

[widehips71]

Are you considering a couple of short cycles WH?

If I could convince myself it were worth it. I'm always open to something new. This last run for me was all long esters, and even so, I seemed to explode the first 9 weeks, with almost no appreciable gains made from 9 to 14. The only real change at that point was breaking out for the first time in my life. Keeping my e2 down did nothing for this. Have been cruising the last 6 to let the deca clear. This made me think if I could get the same results with a shorter cycle on short esters, then I might try it. I'm not looking forward to PCT after 20 weeks. Would almost even consider joining the B&C ranks if I weren't still in my early 30's.

 

[BigGameHunter]

if memory serves me correctly wasn't it you that mentioned the study of the mind and environments effects on natural test production? I wonder if knowing I only had a few weeks to peek had an effect on my results on those short cycles.

Id definitely follow a log if your going to run a few short ones.

 

[Infantry87]

If I could convince myself it were worth it. I'm always open to something new. This last run for me was all long esters, and even so, I seemed to explode the first 9 weeks, with almost no appreciable gains made from 9 to 14. The only real change at that point was breaking out for the first time in my life. Keeping my e2 down did nothing for this. Have been cruising the last 6 to let the deca clear. This made me think if I could get the same results with a shorter cycle on short esters, then I might try it. I'm not looking forward to PCT after 20 weeks. Would almost even consider joining the B&C ranks if I weren't still in my early 30's.

Ran short bursts 10wks on 8off and then another 10 on... High tren ace low test. Started off at 600 tren wk for 5 wks and finished around 800 wk. Honestly I love short cycles with tren... My lipids don't tend to be so bad when I keep it 10-12 wks... BP and estro was on the bad side mainly because I didn't give blood before my run and the asin I had from a pep company was bunk. Also I've ran a 24 wk with deca/test and honestly I felt like longer than 16 wks was a waste of gear. But that's because I didn't change up doses or compounds when I plateaued. I prefer shorter cycles man. Just feels easier to me for recovery

 

[Tren4Life]

As DYS would say. " steel is a blast and explode guy"
So I got nothin.

 

[woodswise]

I have been all B&C since I started: 20 to 24 weeks blasting and 4 to 8 weeks cruising. I can't imagine myself cycling, even much longer cycles.

 

[losieloos]

I'm currently on a 8 week cycle. This will be my shortest time being on. Let's see what happens.....

 

[Khazima]

There's a thread on another forum about really short cycles say after a contest prep or a cut, because this is when your body is primed and you make awsome gains for a while after dieting down. It basically says that once you reach the peak of a cut or straight after a show prep, use high doses of short esters for 4-6 weeks.

It stemmed off a thread someone make about doing mini cycle / PCTs a bit like this. His idea was to use high doses and short esters/orals for 4-6 weeks, full PCT, time on + PCT = time off, repeat.

 

[antique]

4-6 weeks is pointless, all you are goiung to gain in that length of time is water bloat and glycogen retention

You are better off running 250-500mgs of test e for a year than doing multiple cycles of much higher dosages.

 

[Infantry87]

4-6 weeks is pointless, all you are goiung to gain in that length of time is water bloat and glycogen retention

You are better off running 250-500mgs of test e for a year than doing multiple cycles of much higher dosages.

That's TRT homie and no you don't make bigger gains, you maintain with this. Show me someone who's on a TRT script and over 260 without running at least 2 blasts a year.

 

[antique]

That's TRT homie and no you don't make bigger gains, you maintain with this. Show me someone who's on a TRT script and over 260 without running at least 2 blasts a year.

You can make gains on 250mgs test, its argued that 250mgs isnt much more than natural test production.
I can tell you from experience 250mgs compared top nothing is a world apart.

When you say 260, what BF% do you have in mind, because anyone can get to 260 taking 250mgs test if they get fat enough.

 

[PillarofBalance]

That's TRT homie and no you don't make bigger gains, you maintain with this. Show me someone who's on a TRT script and over 260 without running at least 2 blasts a year.

My boy BrotherIron is 290lbs and pretty god damn strong. On trt only.

But where is the fun in that?

 

[Yaya]

I started my test run in april.. started with sus and mast
.from April until late july..... gained alot of size and then I did test c at 200 mg 1nce e5days...

I'm now back on a little bit of prop and mast.....I liked cruising but didn't work out much...

Now taking test a and mast p until January 1st and then natty until march

 

[Infantry87]

My boy BrotherIron is 290lbs and pretty god damn strong. On trt only.

But where is the fun in that?

I take back my previous statement damn it. I need to get my ass on his level

 

[DocDePanda187123]

I take back my previous statement damn it. I need to get my ass on his level

I've seen that guy's log....he is going beast mode. Fukking beast.

 

[Seeker]

shorter cycles can and do produce good gains with possibly less sides.
=If you're a national competitor then shorter cycles are probably not right for you but for any other bro I think its a good idea. Yeah you won't gain AS much with a short cycle but you won't lose as much either post cycle due to the shorter time off. Now in the long run say over a course of a year of doing a few 4-6 week on and similar off you might just end up with the same results as taking a couple of long cycles with less ups and downs and even less side effects.