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Hello, all. I try to keep my posts as short as possible (and always fail) but feel the need to provide as many details so I don't have to provide that information later sine it's usually important. If you just want to focus on answering my questions in bold that would be great. If you care to read all of my gibberish and comment more in depth I'd really appreciate it.
I was curious to know if anyone has or had a similar experience to mine. To get right to it, I got my bloodwork done this past week. My liver enzymes are normal and I also finally had my liver ultrasound three weeks ago and it came back fine. The only thing that seemed notable was that it appeared that my liver might have been slightly enlarged in the past from non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. Although a moderate cycle I did back in 2021 could have also been the culprit. But I'm not sure if my mildly elevated liver enzymes would actually cause this. I wonder if I was slowly developing non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. At the time when I did my moderate cycle I stopped doing intermittent fasting and was eating quite a bit of carbs and admittedly was eating quite a bit of refined sugar (e.g. sweetened ice coffee drinks, protein bars throughout the day to get my calories in) and my blood glucose levels were constantly high. My A1C was slowly climbing up but it never reached prediabetic levels.
My doctor said as far as the ultrasound looks, there is no indication of cirrhosis which I'm very glad about. But the thing is, when I inject just my weekly dose of hormone replacement (200mg weekly) I feel a slight discomfort in my liver (even though my liver enzymes have been in the normal range for months). Sometimes I go down to 100mg of testosterone a week and I still notice my liver discomfort a day later, usually. I brought this up with my doctor and was told that if it continues that I could have a CT scan that would be more thorough than an ultrasound.
I'm asking to see if anyone has had any similar experiences to mine. Anyone experience discomfort in the liver area but still have normal liver enzyme levels? I'm also itching to do another moderate cycle. Nothing major but somewhere along the lines of 400-600mg total of everything weekly. It's been over a year since I've done a moderate cycle. I've only been on my HRT since then. Of course, I'll tread very carefully and get my labs done very frequently to keep an eye on things. But to also provide some backstory, as I completed my four month cycle of 200mg testosterone and 300mg of trenbolone enanthate in 2021 my liver enzymes at their worst were (ALT = 76, AST = 51). They're now 25 and 28 respectively and have been in this range now for eight months. Normal range is ALT - 0-44, AST - 0-48.
I also take milk thistle daily (1,000mg pill once and sometimes twice day) and wonder if that may be part of the reason why my liver enzymes are in better ranges. I'm also taking TUDCA and NAC but never noticed any improvement in bloodwork. I started taking them months before I went back to milk thistle and didn't notice any improvement in my bloodwork. Maybe what I bought online is fake. I'm also taking alpha lipoic acid daily at 600mg daily (one pill) for liver protection.
My second question is, do any of you allow your liver enzymes to be slightly elevated while on your cycle? Or do you stop immediately if they go over just a bit? From my reading online, liver enzymes can be triple over the normal threshold yet not pose any serious concern. My numbers at their highest only show mild elevation. In fact, mild elevation is considered double to triple the numbers that are within the normal range. So just wanted to get input on what other people do concerning their ALT/AST levels.
Thanks.
I was curious to know if anyone has or had a similar experience to mine. To get right to it, I got my bloodwork done this past week. My liver enzymes are normal and I also finally had my liver ultrasound three weeks ago and it came back fine. The only thing that seemed notable was that it appeared that my liver might have been slightly enlarged in the past from non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. Although a moderate cycle I did back in 2021 could have also been the culprit. But I'm not sure if my mildly elevated liver enzymes would actually cause this. I wonder if I was slowly developing non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. At the time when I did my moderate cycle I stopped doing intermittent fasting and was eating quite a bit of carbs and admittedly was eating quite a bit of refined sugar (e.g. sweetened ice coffee drinks, protein bars throughout the day to get my calories in) and my blood glucose levels were constantly high. My A1C was slowly climbing up but it never reached prediabetic levels.
My doctor said as far as the ultrasound looks, there is no indication of cirrhosis which I'm very glad about. But the thing is, when I inject just my weekly dose of hormone replacement (200mg weekly) I feel a slight discomfort in my liver (even though my liver enzymes have been in the normal range for months). Sometimes I go down to 100mg of testosterone a week and I still notice my liver discomfort a day later, usually. I brought this up with my doctor and was told that if it continues that I could have a CT scan that would be more thorough than an ultrasound.
I'm asking to see if anyone has had any similar experiences to mine. Anyone experience discomfort in the liver area but still have normal liver enzyme levels? I'm also itching to do another moderate cycle. Nothing major but somewhere along the lines of 400-600mg total of everything weekly. It's been over a year since I've done a moderate cycle. I've only been on my HRT since then. Of course, I'll tread very carefully and get my labs done very frequently to keep an eye on things. But to also provide some backstory, as I completed my four month cycle of 200mg testosterone and 300mg of trenbolone enanthate in 2021 my liver enzymes at their worst were (ALT = 76, AST = 51). They're now 25 and 28 respectively and have been in this range now for eight months. Normal range is ALT - 0-44, AST - 0-48.
I also take milk thistle daily (1,000mg pill once and sometimes twice day) and wonder if that may be part of the reason why my liver enzymes are in better ranges. I'm also taking TUDCA and NAC but never noticed any improvement in bloodwork. I started taking them months before I went back to milk thistle and didn't notice any improvement in my bloodwork. Maybe what I bought online is fake. I'm also taking alpha lipoic acid daily at 600mg daily (one pill) for liver protection.
My second question is, do any of you allow your liver enzymes to be slightly elevated while on your cycle? Or do you stop immediately if they go over just a bit? From my reading online, liver enzymes can be triple over the normal threshold yet not pose any serious concern. My numbers at their highest only show mild elevation. In fact, mild elevation is considered double to triple the numbers that are within the normal range. So just wanted to get input on what other people do concerning their ALT/AST levels.
Thanks.