TRT+ and Dbol cycle

[jacked_jack]

Your Gear say's - I'm off season wanna gain some mass

Your diet say's - i'm getting ready for bikini comp.



so what is it ?

haha, your first assessment is correct, in the off season. I'm doing a hard deficit for around 4 weeks to shed some of the holiday weight gain. I know the calories are super low, that's why I was dumbfounded by the weight gain.

 

[andy]

haha, your first assessment is correct, in the off season. I'm doing a hard deficit for around 4 weeks to shed some of the holiday weight gain. I know the calories are super low, that's why I was dumbfounded by the weight gain.

then I would stop on gear - just get few clenbuterols with your deficit and once u happy and ready to start a correct weight gain get back on your gear. otherwise it's a bit of wasting on gear and pinning IMO.

 

[Reader591]

My typical rule of thumb is if one serving of the carb has 10 or more grams of say a protein, then I would count that protein in as well. Direct macro tracking I believe is what we called it.

Honestly this is weird.

I get counting a food like chicken or even steak as your protein source….. but to not track all the macros in it is strange.

Like of course I wouldn’t count peanut butter as a real protein source (even though some do hahaha!) but it does have some, so I wouldn’t not track the protein from it. I just wouldn’t use it as a primary protein source.

It sounds like a more complicated way of tracking that’s less accurate and pointless. I get you were taught that, but I can’t see a reason why…..

 

[software]

Honestly this is weird.

I get counting a food like chicken or even steak as your protein source….. but to not track all the macros in it is strange.

Like of course I wouldn’t count peanut butter as a real protein source (even though some do hahaha!) but it does have some, so I wouldn’t not track the protein from it. I just wouldn’t use it as a primary protein source.

It sounds like a more complicated way of tracking that’s less accurate and pointless. I get you were taught that, but I can’t see a reason why…..

the principle should work for incomplete protein and trace fats but nothing else

 

[Reader591]

the principle should work for incomplete protein and trace fats but nothing else

Yea you could do that.

But honestly if your hitting a gram of protein per lbs of body weight, and eating mostly what you should be, meats and whatnot, then If you had a bowl of oat meal I say use the KISS method and just track it as a whole…..

 

[CJ]

Honestly this is weird.

I get counting a food like chicken or even steak as your protein source….. but to not track all the macros in it is strange.

I agree, but it's very common, and works for many.