What were ur lifting amounts when u first cycled and...

[j2048b]

Some say if u can bench, squat and deadlift 1.5 times ur body weight ur considered strong, so i just wanted to ask:


Just wondering what peoples general lifting poundages where when they first cycled?

Why do u use certain compounds and
how long did it take u to realize certain compounds where not for u?

Just a general series of question that may shed some more light on steroid usage and y people chose to go this route and peoples perception of strength


I am asking this in light of a few posts ive read of late from another forum where dudes were or are still under 30 and are already getting half their livers removed and comming close to death because they chose to use some ungodly amounts of aas way before they may have needed them

 

[Jada]

Hey j204 well this has been my second cycle and my incline db press went from 80lbs on my first cycle to now 90lbs on my second cycle . I don't personally feel that I'm abusing my body since I research first ask ? And do things properly but over all to is taking time off. I have a friend who doesn't really come off. He went from a primo and epo ,test and decca to now test winstrol and hgh and now thinking slin!!! He is nuts no pct no hcg no time off . I try my best to share my knowledge but he's like sure buddy so I say to my self fk it do u.

 

[j2048b]

Werd thanks jada, i know most people give and actually take good sound advice, im just wanting to see how many people where actually pushing huge amounts of weights or actually used aas in order to get to the massive weights they now push,

And i know aas are not a magic bullet,

Its just a shame some take vanity over health ya know?

 

[losieloos]

I know a guy who takes a gram of test a week andbrags about curling 100 pound barbells, he looks like shit I tried to help but he doesn't listen. I asked him why are you taking a gram a week he said "so I can feel strong".

 

[j2048b]

I know a guy who takes a gram of test a week andbrags about curling 100 pound barbells, he looks like shit I tried to help but he doesn't listen. I asked him why are you taking a gram a week he said "so I can feel strong".

See and the dudes that r getting their livers cut out and very bad health problems have all been on huge amounts and just doing shit very unhealthy!

Im wondering if other peoples poundages warranted their usage or was it lack of strength and poundages?

 

[ken Sass]

my 1st cycle was 1984, it was dbol and just dbol at 60 mg a week. i was squatting 315, bench was about 235. body weight was 175. aw the good old days lol

 

[j2048b]

Nice ken!! Thanks for the reply and input!

 

[RISE]

I trained for 8 years before I started AAS. My PR's were 350 bench, 405 squat, and 405 deadlift (didn't deadlift properly) at 175. I know longer do barbell bench and never max out anymore. I train alot smarter so can;t tell you what they are now, but prob not as much. I can say I can do more weight for more reps than I used to.

As for why I use, my goals are not realistic for me to gain them naturally.

 

[j2048b]

I trained for 8 years before I started AAS. My PR's were 350 bench, 405 squat, and 405 deadlift (didn't deadlift properly) at 175. I know longer do barbell bench and never max out anymore. I train alot smarter so can;t tell you what they are now, but prob not as much. I can say I can do more weight for more reps than I used to.

Thanks rise! Great numbers at 175! Wow,

 

[Yaya]

At the age of 19 i was natty and benched 225 for 2 reps i weighed about 180

By the age of 21 after 2 cycles 315 10x clean wih no spot..thanks to steris cyp and pink dbols. Weight about 210

This was about 10 years ago now who knows

 

[j2048b]

At the age of 19 i was natty and benched 225 for 2 reps

By the age of 21 after 2 cycles 315 10x clean wih no spot..thanks to steris cyp and pink dbols

This was about 10 years ago now who knows

Damn yaya nice,

Ueah im now figuring out that most dont give a damn what they max at as long as progression is on point

 

[mattyice]

My first cycle lifts went from bench 325-405lbs oh 165-245lbs. I never squat more than 315lbs and I dont dead lift. I also lost 50-60lbs during cycle.

 

[j2048b]

Dang nice matty!

 

[SAD]

Before my first cycle, I was 225lbs and maxed out at about 16oz chicken, a sweet potato, and some asparagus......and I could only do that 3 times a day. After my first cycle, I had learned how to force feed pounds of beef, cous cous, vegetables, oatmeal, eggs, and just about any other source of carbs/fats/protein I could get my hands on, and that was 6-7 times per day. Because I learned to eat, I've gained 75lbs and sit at 300 as of 3 days ago. I'm not obese either. I've got a belly, but I'm somewhere around 18%bf and very happy.

The point is, moving big weight is awesome and it's why I powerlift competitively, however, the real gains come from eating, not juicing. I know that's been said a million times and everyone claims to know it, but I'll be damned if 10% of this board actually shovels enough food down their gullet to get freaky big or freaky strong (if those aren't your goals, I understand).

To actually answer your question though, my bench went from 300 to 345, squat from 365 to 455, and deadlift from 405 to 475.

 

[R1rider]

I was 6-2 and 205lbs before my first cycle @ age 25. Ended the cycle around 230lbs

before cycle, natty numbers
My bench was 275 max
dead- 315
squat- 275

First cycle was test e and dbol. Lots of dbol, not enough test but i went up to

bench-315
dead-405 for reps
squat- 365

currently i am 30 and blast and curise. My numbers are ok, kinda at a plateau

bench- 375
dead- 550
squat- 450

all raw. currently i weigh 254lbs

 

[Big Worm]

Lets see what I can remember.....

I was 265
Bench 315
Deads were around 405
Squat, never did them much before I juiced but 365 or so. Always did leg press and hacks.

I've been as high as 294, but hang around 285-290
Bench 425, 495 with a reverse band
Squat 615, 720 with chains
Dead 655, 705 or 725 off blocks

I'm not at that strength currently but planning on exceeding it real soon.

 

[RISE]

Before my first cycle, I was 225lbs and maxed out at about 16oz chicken, a sweet potato, and some asparagus......and I could only do that 3 times a day. After my first cycle, I had learned how to force feed pounds of beef, cous cous, vegetables, oatmeal, eggs, and just about any other source of carbs/fats/protein I could get my hands on, and that was 6-7 times per day. Because I learned to eat, I've gained 75lbs and sit at 300 as of 3 days ago. I'm not obese either. I've got a belly, but I'm somewhere around 18%bf and very happy.

The point is, moving big weight is awesome and it's why I powerlift competitively, however, the real gains come from eating, not juicing. I know that's been said a million times and everyone claims to know it, but I'll be damned if 10% of this board actually shovels enough food down their gullet to get freaky big or freaky strong (if those aren't your goals, I understand).

To actually answer your question though, my bench went from 300 to 345, squat from 365 to 455, and deadlift from 405 to 475.

Truth. I'm one of the "hard gainers", and went from 120lbs to 195 lbs naturally in 4-5 years. I ate me ass off to get there. Ended up being 15% before I cut down to 180 so I could see my abs.

 

[j2048b]

SAD,
i do agree with u on the eating, but a lot of times people want to get strong and not eat a shit ton to gain a bunch of weight.... lean bulk would be one of the times, if one is a PL then it would be totally different, as i will never reach that mountain top in my training, i eat according to my goal,


R1rider,
nice numbers!! man u raised ur bench from 275 to 375, damn and the squas from 275 to 450,

see my numbers are actually right around ur lower ones at the moment, im gonna go with just my hrt amount until i get my numbers up higher, then cycle on!

 

[j2048b]

Lets see what I can remember.....

I was 265
Bench 315
Deads were around 405
Squat, never did them much before I juiced but 365 or so. Always did leg press and hacks.

I've been as high as 294, but hang around 285-290
Bench 425, 495 with a reverse band
Squat 615, 720 with chains
Dead 655, 705 or 725 off blocks

I'm not at that strength currently but planning on exceeding it real soon.

damn Bw,

u did pretty good, ur numbers were decent to begin with but yeah nice jump

i do need to ask how ur bench goes that high with a reverse band? (what is it?)

and with squats u add chains and can go up to 720?

if u do deads off blocks does ity raise the weight higher off the ground so u dont have to go down as low as well? not sure how any of this stuff works really?

 

[R1rider]

SAD,
i do agree with u on the eating, but a lot of times people want to get strong and not eat a shit ton to gain a bunch of weight.... lean bulk would be one of the times, if one is a PL then it would be totally different, as i will never reach that mountain top in my training, i eat according to my goal,


R1rider,
nice numbers!! man u raised ur bench from 275 to 375, damn and the squas from 275 to 450,

see my numbers are actually right around ur lower ones at the moment, im gonna go with just my hrt amount until i get my numbers up higher, then cycle on!

Yea with hard work, diet, time and some gear anyone can do it. I did it over a period of about 5 years. I didnt really lift seriously before 25. I was more into wrestling/mma. So it was lots of carido, sparing and then some more cardio

Hard work/diet being number 1.