Help with next cycle - high aromatization

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Hey guys, new here. I would like some help with putting together my next cycle where I'll be starting a 6-week minicut after a holding phase of 5 weeks on 175mg test & 1/4 adex E3D (daily pinning now)
I only recently(this cruise) started to pin daily to lower aromatization as I didn't know much about it before.

From past data normal E2, not sensitive (pinning 3-4 times weekly here) on a range of 11-44 pg/ml
200 test 300 primo - half aromasin E3D = 44
450 test only - 1 asin daily = 37
400 test 400 primo - 12.5 aromasin daily =22
Cruise of 150 test 80 primo - half adex E3D = crushed E2
450 test 600 primo - 1 asin E3D =24

I now have a higher body fat also (16% maybe?). Where I felt best based on a normal E2 test I believe is between 30-50, as they go above that I experience sides immediately such as tiredness, no motivation, irritability, water retention etc... Below 20 they feel like crushed. I believe the test compared to e2 sensitive might show up as 20 points higher.

The plan was to try 150 test 300 primo with no AI but I was wondering if 150 is not too little for a blast and if I would have libido problems with that. I wanted therefore to do a 1:2 test primo & add AI in the future if needed. Another option was to do 200 test 300 primo and add 25 proviron daily but I don't want to also start already at a "high dose" from week 1.

For my next cruise I am also thinking 150 test and if that doesn't cut it add 25 proviron daily or 50 primo weekly.

I will always keep pinning daily as I want to use as little AI as possible now.

Thanks for anyone's help!
 

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Hey guys, new here. I would like some help with putting together my next cycle where I'll be starting a 6-week minicut after a holding phase of 5 weeks on 175mg test & 1/4 adex E3D (daily pinning now)
I only recently(this cruise) started to pin daily to lower aromatization as I didn't know much about it before.

From past data normal E2, not sensitive (pinning 3-4 times weekly here) on a range of 11-44 pg/ml
200 test 300 primo - half aromasin E3D = 44
450 test only - 1 asin daily = 37
400 test 400 primo - 12.5 aromasin daily =22
Cruise of 150 test 80 primo - half adex E3D = crushed E2
450 test 600 primo - 1 asin E3D =24

I now have a higher body fat also (16% maybe?). Where I felt best based on a normal E2 test I believe is between 30-50, as they go above that I experience sides immediately such as tiredness, no motivation, irritability, water retention etc... Below 20 they feel like crushed. I believe the test compared to e2 sensitive might show up as 20 points higher.

The plan was to try 150 test 300 primo with no AI but I was wondering if 150 is not too little for a blast and if I would have libido problems with that. I wanted therefore to do a 1:2 test primo & add AI in the future if needed. Another option was to do 200 test 300 primo and add 25 proviron daily but I don't want to also start already at a "high dose" from week 1.

For my next cruise I am also thinking 150 test and if that doesn't cut it add 25 proviron daily or 50 primo weekly.

I will always keep pinning daily as I want to use as little AI as possible now.

Thanks for anyone's help!
Do you use any rec drugs?
 

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Hey guys, new here. I would like some help with putting together my next cycle where I'll be starting a 6-week minicut after a holding phase of 5 weeks on 175mg test & 1/4 adex E3D (daily pinning now)
I only recently(this cruise) started to pin daily to lower aromatization as I didn't know much about it before.

From past data normal E2, not sensitive (pinning 3-4 times weekly here) on a range of 11-44 pg/ml
200 test 300 primo - half aromasin E3D = 44
450 test only - 1 asin daily = 37
400 test 400 primo - 12.5 aromasin daily =22
Cruise of 150 test 80 primo - half adex E3D = crushed E2
450 test 600 primo - 1 asin E3D =24

I now have a higher body fat also (16% maybe?). Where I felt best based on a normal E2 test I believe is between 30-50, as they go above that I experience sides immediately such as tiredness, no motivation, irritability, water retention etc... Below 20 they feel like crushed. I believe the test compared to e2 sensitive might show up as 20 points higher.

The plan was to try 150 test 300 primo with no AI but I was wondering if 150 is not too little for a blast and if I would have libido problems with that. I wanted therefore to do a 1:2 test primo & add AI in the future if needed. Another option was to do 200 test 300 primo and add 25 proviron daily but I don't want to also start already at a "high dose" from week 1.

For my next cruise I am also thinking 150 test and if that doesn't cut it add 25 proviron daily or 50 primo weekly.

I will always keep pinning daily as I want to use as little AI as possible now.

Thanks for anyone's help!
Were you using pharma AI or was it UGL or research chem?
 

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Baseline test with 4-600 mg of primo would be my go-to if I were a high aromatizer.
 

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aromasin doesnt work as well as arimidex for me
 

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aromasin doesnt work as well as arimidex for me

Me neither. And i have heard many others say the same. This is why i can't stand the "science or die" nerds, not everything on paper plays out that way in real life with different individuals.
 

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