If I call it a "Fitness Journey" I'm automatically more virtuous and brave than you.

[Test_subject]

Most of the active users here have an atrocious attitude. Nobody wants to help me because I'm an asshole to morons, and morons are a large part of any internet community. I'm ok with alienating the retards.

I've asked for suggestions about a dozen times regarding my split, and I'm open to genuine feedback, but little has been provided. Truth is, this first week wasn't a planned split. It was my previous 3 day program that I made up an extra day for at the last minute.

You want genuine advice on your split? Trash it and run a program written by somebody who knows what they’re doing.

You don’t have the knowledge or experience to be writing programs.

 

[TomJ]

First y'all said I was too fat, now you're saying I'm too skinny. I think most of you are just too damn stupid.

skinny as small and frail with next to no muscle mass, with a physique even more fragile than your ego

 

[RiR0]

First y'all said I was too fat, now you're saying I'm too skinny. I think most of you are just too damn stupid.

Skinny fat. You’re literally both

 

[Slabiathan]

Since you're the 4th or 5th person to say that, I'll make that adjustment and stop doing those together. Thanks for the advice.

No problem. Have you down an LP program before? That might help to build a better base. I think a simple LP could get your weights up and build the big movers up.

 

[RiR0]

I’m reminded of an old saying. If everywhere you go smells like shit, then check your shoe.

 

[Thebiggestdumbass]

Oof, second paragraph, my mistake.

> I'm doing low doses of Test C, Deca, HCG, and Arimidex.

Tard boy. That's clever. lol.

That still didn’t tell me whether you’re in TRT or doing a cycle but good attempt bud.

If you meet one retard a day, that person is probably retarded. If everyone you meet in a day is a retard, they aren’t the retards

 

[Thebiggestdumbass]

I’m reminded of an old saying. If everywhere you go smells like shit, then check your shoe.

Fuck you beat me to it

 

[Reader591]

Since you're the 4th or 5th person to say that, I'll make that adjustment and stop doing those together. Thanks for the advice.

No, I'm not familiar with an LP program. I'll Google it now.

Just to add an extra if there is any doubt, I wouldn’t deadlift and squat on the same day. Lol.

I use to do this, but once you work up to a moderately heavy workload, or learn to up the intensity, it will be a no go real quick.

And this isn’t a dig at you, I did it when I was newer to lifting too. Got away with it too. Because my intensity wasn’t high (and that was a GOOD thing as I learned the lifts better) but it didn’t take long and this would trash me. I wouldn’t do them back to back days either. At least have a days rest between them. If not more. For now, I’d bet one day is enough.

This is even coming from a guy who loves full body training.

 

[Test_subject]

I’m reminded of an old saying. If everywhere you go smells like shit, then check your shoe.

If you meet an asshole during your day, you met an asshole.

If everyone that you meet during your day is an asshole, you’re the asshole.

 

[Reader591]

And as far as measuring body fat percentage, I use calipers and a basic way of measuring with only three sites, one at chest, one on the stomach, one on the quad. Not increasingly accurate, but here’s what’s important to ME.

It’s incredibly consistent.

I could care less what my actual BF percentage is. Some may not be this way. You may want to know. That’s great. But for measuring progress as long as it’s reliably wrong, but consistent, I don’t care.

Weight goes up, pants still fit, lifts are stronger, and body fat measures the same using the same method that I can perform on myself easily, then I’m all good.

I measure lower than I think I actually am, by a good bit. I store a lot of my last bits of fat in my glutes and love handles, and notice my sites measured don’t include these. So room for error even in consistency, because I may be gaining there and not as fast elsewhere, but still beats the heck out of the scale where as you stated, hydration even throws it off by quite a bit.

My abs will show at higher body fat percentages. Not just the worlds best abs, and not good ones by guys here standards, but by walking around on the street standards I’ll have decent abs and love handles.

I can measure three days in a row with a basic measurement, and get exactly the same thing.

Of course there’s a time and a place for more accurate vs just consistent measurements. But in my opinion, you don’t need that really. If you want it great, I’d you trust your girl to measure correctly each time then great. I don’t want to ask my wife every time, and I’d rather know my hand is doing it.(dry dirty not funny joke here).

Just a consideration for you.

On the other point of view, I’d you’re gonna do it, why do it half way? Of course I stated my reasons.

 

[ex.igne.vita]

You want genuine advice on your split? Trash it and run a program written by somebody who knows what they’re doing.

You don’t have the knowledge or experience to be writing programs.

Fair enough. I get that it's not ideal but the great thing about working out is, even if my program sucks and my form sucks, it's still gonna be at least a little effective. I have the data to prove it.

Anyway, I was looking into into some LP programs. Trying to decide between some variation of 5/3/1 and Greyskull before I go do the first workout of the week.

 

[Reader591]

Fair enough. I get that it's not ideal but the great thing about working out is, even if my program sucks and my form sucks, it's still gonna be at least a little effective. I have the data to prove it.

For now. But you’d probably get better results with a better routine and no gear at all then all the gear and poor training.

You’re improving in spite of your training more than because of it. Of course something is better than nothing, unless you get hurt.

 

[ex.igne.vita]

If you meet an asshole during your day, you met an asshole.

If everyone that you meet during your day is an asshole, you’re the asshole.

You're right, I can be an asshole. Maybe I got overwhelmed and needed to step away for a minute. I'm sorry if I've hurt your feelings.

 

[RiR0]

I get it, it's the middle of the night, you're lonely and bored, probably just got done masturbating to incest porn and don't have the energy to actually read post, let alone the thread before you comment, so I'll give you the cliff notes of what you missed:

• The drugs are prescribed by my urologist. A doctor I've seen for years.
• My diet is on point. I track everything. I've got food scales at home and at my office.
• I know I'm obnoxious, but I'm humble too. If you have something to teach me I'm all ears. So far it's just been a bunch of loud noises from everyone except send0 and turkey sandwich.

Btw, "packing meat" used to mean gay sex when I was a kid. It's fucking hilarious that you adapted this as a term for hypertrophic training.

Interesting that people are so cnocerned about my body fat. The doc did bloods for 6 months before considering Deca, but he never once measured my body fat, which makes me think it's probably just not that important. But for those of you who are concerned, here's what I'm working with at the moment:

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This guy is arguing with people about building muscle and losing fat….

 

[Robdjents]

You're right, I can be an asshole. Maybe I got overwhelmed and needed to step away for a minute. I'm sorry if I've hurt your feelings.

I don’t think you hurt anyone’s feelings but we deal with people every week that think they know better than all the knowledge here it gets pretty frustrating…I can attest for greyskull as well …I can promise you I was skinnier and smaller than you at one time …I spun my wheels for years then I decided professional knew more than me and I stick to the plan and it’s working …any greyskull questions hit me up

 

[Reader591]

Also, my dick is bigger than yours.

Congrats. Not impressive. Everyone has a bigger one than me.

 

[Slabiathan]

Fair enough. I get that it's not ideal but the great thing about working out is, even if my program sucks and my form sucks, it's still gonna be at least a little effective. I have the data to prove it.

Anyway, I was looking into into some LP programs. Trying to decide between some variation of 5/3/1 and Greyskull before I go do the first workout of the week.

Greyskull LP.
I started benching 135 in July and now I'm benching over your deadlift. If you eat well with it you will grow and get stronger.

 

[ex.igne.vita]

skinny as small and frail with next to no muscle mass, with a physique even more fragile than your ego

Bet I could outrun you though

 

[ex.igne.vita]

Greyskull LP.
I started benching 135 in July and now I'm benching over your deadlift. If you eat well with it you will grow and get stronger.

My only issue is, I wanna lift 4 days a week and Greyskull is a 3 day program. You think it would be ok to do deads twice a week?

 

[Robdjents]

My only issue is, I wanna lift 4 days a week and Greyskull is a 3 day program. You think it would be ok to do deads twice a week?

If you lift hard enough you won’t want 4 days…you NEED time to recover