Tell me the worst, and best, training advice you've ever received.

eazy

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best was sign up for an event and train for it.

worst was overtraining is a thing.
 
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WORST: any advice given at a crossfit gym.

BEST: If you want to get big lift big and eat big. I realized that for many years, I wasnt doing near enough volume or eating enough. Agree with the OP. Too much is written about overtraining when I think most people undertrain

JK about the crossfit gym. I enjoyed crossfit but it wasn't for me. Maybe I'm old school but I like the sound of metal plates clanging together as I lift. No bumper plates for me.

In reality the worst advice I got was that I needed to keep my feet parallel during squats. I did this for years and jacked up my knees and hips. Went to a PT and found my femur inserts into my hips at a certain angle where I'm better off pronating my feet. That's one reason I didn't like crossfit. Seems they force form and don't consider individual anatomy.
 

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. . . worst was overtraining is a thing.

Might depend on the individual, but forgetting that for a moment ......

Are we talking about overtraining a specific body part with too much intensity and/or too much volume per training session ... and/or too much frequency of sessions per week, or whatever time period a trainee uses?

OR ... are we talking about overtraining the body as a whole, where the total work done in all these otherwise well designed, mutually exclusive, split routine sessions exceeds the body's recovery ability ... even if no single body part was trained "too much?"

(I do believe overtraining can be a thing, depending on how an individual designs his training schedule, and, MAN, it gets complicated.)
 
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I definitely think overtraining is a thing. However, most people aren't anywhere near overtraining or they're not able to maximize volume because they are lagging somewhere else like enough food or sleep.

Until recently I never realized how important sleep is for growth.
 

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Best

dont skip leg day

worst

weed is good for bulking because it makes you hungry
 

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Best Advice: Form first, fukk your ego. Similar to more isn't better, better is better.

Worst Advice: You have to confuse the muscles.

Agree with the Best Advice. Quibble with the Worst Advice ... you may not have to confuse the muscles, but it can be useful for long term progress. Vary exercises for a bodypart, vary intensity, volume and frequency.

Arthur (Nautilus) Jones once praised the old Monday-Wed-Friday routines because (he theorized) the muscles "expected" to be worked on either 1 or 2 days rest, depending on which day of the week it is. Therefore, in Jones' mind, the muscles never settle into a pattern and are instead surprised on a weekly basis.

Whether you believe the muscles are in there thinking for themselves or not ... the brain surely is, and it determines a lot of what else happens. "Muscle confusion" may come from variety, whereby you never get bored with what you do in the gym. Maybe don't do a different workout each time, but do vary them when your instincts and your results suggest you should.
 

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Agree with the Best Advice. Quibble with the Worst Advice ... you may not have to confuse the muscles, but it can be useful for long term progress. Vary exercises for a bodypart, vary intensity, volume and frequency.

Arthur (Nautilus) Jones once praised the old Monday-Wed-Friday routines because (he theorized) the muscles "expected" to be worked on either 1 or 2 days rest, depending on which day of the week it is. Therefore, in Jones' mind, the muscles never settle into a pattern and are instead surprised on a weekly basis.

Whether you believe the muscles are in there thinking for themselves or not ... the brain surely is, and it determines a lot of what else happens. "Muscle confusion" may come from variety, whereby you never get bored with what you do in the gym. Maybe don't do a different workout each time, but do vary them when your instincts and your results suggest you should.

I guess I meant it more like not just doing random crap. How would one know if they're making any progress or not if they don't repeat an exercise for a month or so, and it could be at a different rep and weight scheme, or in a different order within a workout.

Making progress bro?

Yup!!!

How do you know?

I just do bruh!!!
 

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Might depend on the individual, but forgetting that for a moment ......

Are we talking about overtraining a specific body part with too much intensity and/or too much volume per training session ... and/or too much frequency of sessions per week, or whatever time period a trainee uses?

OR ... are we talking about overtraining the body as a whole, where the total work done in all these otherwise well designed, mutually exclusive, split routine sessions exceeds the body's recovery ability ... even if no single body part was trained "too much?"

(I do believe overtraining can be a thing, depending on how an individual designs his training schedule, and, MAN, it gets complicated.)

Only as it relates to me. It was an attempt to get me to be lazy with them. I'm never going to work so hard I get exercise-induced rhabdomyolysis.
 

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Only as it relates to me. It was an attempt to get me to be lazy with them. I'm never going to work so hard I get exercise-induced rhabdomyolysis.

Not sure what you mean ....

Your awareness of rhabdo is factored into how you plan for each bodypart, or into the total plan for how the kidneys can handle all the stuff "overtraining" dumps into the bloodstream on a weekly basis?

(not arguing, btw ... just discussing, maybe even learning)
 

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Not sure what you mean ....

Your awareness of rhabdo is factored into how you plan for each bodypart, or into the total plan for how the kidneys can handle all the stuff "overtraining" dumps into the bloodstream on a weekly basis?

(not arguing, btw ... just discussing, maybe even learning)

said to me by someone looking to justify their decisions "you can only lift 3 days per week, anymore and it's overtraining, you'll get rhabdo"

had to google it. it's never going to happen to me.

I'm sure that I'm more likely to not be working hard enough, than to be working so hard I am in danger of overtraining.
 

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You are in the process of creating a highlight reel thread for UG ... thank you, eazy.
 

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Best: Focus on your diet
Worst Don't squat, it's bad for your knees
 

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Might depend on the individual, but forgetting that for a moment ......

Are we talking about overtraining a specific body part with too much intensity and/or too much volume per training session ... and/or too much frequency of sessions per week, or whatever time period a trainee uses?

OR ... are we talking about overtraining the body as a whole, where the total work done in all these otherwise well designed, mutually exclusive, split routine sessions exceeds the body's recovery ability ... even if no single body part was trained "too much?"

(I do believe overtraining can be a thing, depending on how an individual designs his training schedule, and, MAN, it gets complicated.)

Agreed.

Is frying your CNS under the overtraining umbrella? If it is, overtraining is real for me. I don't recommend it.
 

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Best: SI / UG (Fvck Yes I take steroids - but do so only when my diet and workouts are on point)
 

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Best advice .. be comfortable in the way you train for you.

Worst advice .. watching overweight people starting their journey and having a PT trying to get them to do pistol squats.
 

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Agreed.

Is frying your CNS under the overtraining umbrella? If it is, overtraining is real for me. I don't recommend it.

How did you do that to yourself?
 
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