Brothers help me talk sense to my boy!!!

Ok boys here is the situation. My boy has maybe one or two cycles under his belt tops! He is 30 yrs old, he thinks he knows everything. I try to tell him shit, but he doesnt listen. He is one of those types of people that always thinks they knw everything when he don't. He is head strong! He's is a beast and has heart. I lovehim like a brother and he has always looked out for me. He's a few yrs older than me. What ever let me cut right to the point...

All i do is read read read on this shit...i know everything there is to know, i may not have the experience as most of the guys around hre when it comes to aas....but i know the knowledge and how it is suppose to be done. I know my compounds..i know my shit !

My boy has been on 500mgs or test for about a year maybe more now. He even bumped it up to 750mgs a week at one point. He does not take an anti-estrogen. And he is not on hcg. A month ago we was telling me he couldnt feel his legs and shit and he is mad bloated...i gave with like 13 aromasin 25mg pills and told him to take one a day and get the fuck off. O told him he needs to be on hcg, he doesnt listen! I told him he should be taking an ai everyday, he doesnt listen!!!!! He has been running test cyp, i gave it to him, i know its on point!!! I tell him to to start taking hcg and get on hgh and get the fuck off! He doesnt listen, he told me yesterday that because his jug is getting low he dropped down to 250mg/week.

To make a long story short i told him he needs to buy a min. Of 15000 iu of hcg start taking 250mgs every four days then...the day after his last shot take 1000iu per day for at least ten days.

I told him if that he is seroisly doing damage to his body. And he is to young for trt!
He is not getting blood work done
he is not taking hcg.
He is not taking an ai.
He is not getting on hgh like i tell him he should cause he doesnt know what he is missing
he is not listening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Will every brother with half a brain please chime in and talk to this dude. He is not signed up on any boards but i will make him read this post!

Please speak your mind and tell him what to do, how bad he is fucking up his body, how hard it is going to be for him to get his shit back to normal ect ect. I have all the pct shit he needs! Tell him what the fuck is up before i go and smash all the bottles he has left. He asked me for another bottle today! I said your out of your mind! Get on rips and get off test!

Ive known plenty of guys who have stayed on for about a yr of test only BUT THEY DID TAKE THE.PRECAUTIONS as in AI and bloods done. As the hcg goes for random 16/20 weekers, I take it during the last 3wks as dr scally protocol. But being.on a yr with no hcg? I sense.something very fucked up with that. Dude needs to come off or get his cycles straight before something worst than bloat happens.

He's not gonna listen until its too late so fuck him. I'm gonna spend my time helping the guys that wanna get huge AND stay healthy. What a jackass. I'm sure when he fucks up he'll be the latest poster child for steroid abuse.

I spend alot of time with youngsters that are too head strong to listen. The hardest thing to do is to tell someone when they don't want to be told. If he won't listen to you, his mate, then why would he listen to me, a stranger? Sometimes you just have to let go. you cannot force someone to not be stupid. In any relationship, you really cannot change someone to meet your expectations. All you can hope for at this point is that when he does "wake up" and decides to listen, he will not have done serious damage to his body. Besides, his loss of libido or erectile disfunction shouldn't impact your relationship, since you two are just two blokes looking out for each other. His woman may complain, but that's her problem.

Sorry mate. You can lead a bull headed bastad to water, but you can't force him to drink.

Good luck!
---Roman

Dear god... his nuts must be the size of pine nuts.

Also, he is a fucking retard. The only thing that is going to fix him is some nasty gyno and tiny, inoperative testes. Like Times said, if he doesn't want to listen to his close buddy, he isn't going to give us the time of the day. But, in the off chance he does...STOP PINNING IMMEDIATELY. DO NOT FINISH YOUR VIAL. After that, proceed directly with Dr. Scally's PCT protocol. Also, pray to god that he forgives you and your nuts, because you'll need it.

i will be honest, i have many friends and people i know who dont get bloods done... some people just dont know how important it is.. I have a friend that has been on 1000mg of test for over a year easily, he has also thrown var and tren in at times.. he wont go to the doc, he just doesnt care..

So, as a good friend i told him since he doesnt give 2 shits about ANY of his levels, i told him to take some aspirin and to double up on multi vitamins.. its the least i could do.

Cranium, you need to be even more aggressive then you are at this time, and if he doesnt listen then just make him take some support supps.. it will only helpm as POB said, he is a poster boy for steroid abuse

Damn! no blood work? I wonder what his crit levels look like. Probably the only way he is going to listen is if his dick stops working.

cranium85 said:

Ok boys here is the situation. My boy has maybe one or two cycles under his belt tops! He is 30 yrs old, he thinks he knows everything. I try to tell him shit, but he doesnt listen. He is one of those types of people that always thinks they knw everything when he don't. He is head strong! He's is a beast and has heart. I lovehim like a brother and he has always looked out for me. He's a few yrs older than me. What ever let me cut right to the point...

All i do is read read read on this shit...i know everything there is to know, i may not have the experience as most of the guys around hre when it comes to aas....but i know the knowledge and how it is suppose to be done. I know my compounds..i know my shit !

My boy has been on 500mgs or test for about a year maybe more now. He even bumped it up to 750mgs a week at one point. He does not take an anti-estrogen. And he is not on hcg. A month ago we was telling me he couldnt feel his legs and shit and he is mad bloated...i gave with like 13 aromasin 25mg pills and told him to take one a day and get the fuck off. O told him he needs to be on hcg, he doesnt listen! I told him he should be taking an ai everyday, he doesnt listen!!!!! He has been running test cyp, i gave it to him, i know its on point!!! I tell him to to start taking hcg and get on hgh and get the fuck off! He doesnt listen, he told me yesterday that because his jug is getting low he dropped down to 250mg/week.

To make a long story short i told him he needs to buy a min. Of 15000 iu of hcg start taking 250mgs every four days then...the day after his last shot take 1000iu per day for at least ten days.

I told him if that he is seroisly doing damage to his body. And he is to young for trt!
He is not getting blood work done
he is not taking hcg.
He is not taking an ai.
He is not getting on hgh like i tell him he should cause he doesnt know what he is missing
he is not listening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Will every brother with half a brain please chime in and talk to this dude. He is not signed up on any boards but i will make him read this post!

Please speak your mind and tell him what to do, how bad he is fucking up his body, how hard it is going to be for him to get his shit back to normal ect ect. I have all the pct shit he needs! Tell him what the fuck is up before i go and smash all the bottles he has left. He asked me for another bottle today! I said your out of your mind! Get on rips and get off test!

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my brother Cranium ur boy is going to have issues but at the same time sorry to put u on the spot with what ur friend has done how can u tell him to get on hgh! know what im reading about him he might abuse in that field too! theres no way and im sorry to say this give him ANYTHING ur r responsible if u do give it to him, u know his not listening so y give it to him. if he was on cycle for a yr!!!! before u gave him that jug knowing he was dead wrong my brother cranium u fked up sorry . hope u understand , im not in know way flaming u just speaking my mind. hope u understand

Let's not blame cranium... that's like blaming murder on guns or arson on matches. His friend abused it plain and simple.

I think your boy will more than likely be OK. Just get him on a proper pct.

He has to come off sometime and tell him if he does now he has a chance at restarting and if he doesn't he risks permanent damage. Just be firm with him man. You're his good friend, he needs your help.

no way im trying to blame cranium but at the same time he needs to understand that he cant hook him up if he is not being responsible

ahh i cant edit!! and yes ur right ripped his friend has put HIMSELF in that situation but all im tryin to say is cranium shouldnt hook him up period if he is going to not listen and abuse his body. like i said earlier im not hooking no one that doesnt give a fk about him self, im not putting my self in that kind of jam cuz my friend is being a zyzzz dk, steroids aint no boston bake bean candy this is hard stuff and if he is not going to take things serious then i aint hooking him up with shit.

Sounds like youve done alot for him already. I think with the advice the vets give you youll be able to find a solution that works for you and your friend. Although Jada makes a very good point.

One of my friends decided he wanted to be a shit kicking rodeo star years ago with no experience. He got thrown off a big ass bull and stepped on. He spent time in the hospital because of it. He wanted all of us to feel sorry for him cause he lost his job and couldnt walk for like 6 weeks. We told him, you knew that big son of a bitch didnt want you on his back but you fucking did it anyway. We told you it was a bad idea, and you still did it.

Son,

You are right. Do whatever the fuck you want at the moment. The only downsides I have seen from running high levels of test without the proper ancillaries are:

Liver Damage
Kidney Damage
Erectile Dysfunction
The inability to ejaculate
Psychotic Syndromes
Moon Face/Water Retention
Enlarged Heart
Eye infections, cataracts or glaucoma
Baldness
Gynomastia
Jaundice
Enlarged Prostrate
Tendon and Ligament Damage
Enlarged/damaged heart valves
Death.

There is no need to spend money on ancillaries like, Aromosine, Clomid, HCG, or blood tests.

Just run that shit as much and long as you want.... me, your dad, these old fucks here don't know shit.

Or, maybe, just maybe, we are old fucks still pounding pussy and hitting the gym because we have learned to do it right and beleive if you can't do it right - then don;t do it at all.

You're not a body builder son. You are an amateur endocrinologist that goes to the gym.... for now.

54 years old- 5'10", 200, 9.5% bf, been in the game a few years and coached an assload of professional athletes.

I don't know shit either.

Hope you wake up- while you can,
Vette

If that doesnt open his eyes nothing will......and cranium, for your own sake, cut him off and dont contribute to the disaster...unless its pct related

Piro sorry man I clicked disliked when I was picking liked.

pirovoliko said:

if that doesnt open his eyes nothing will......and cranium, for your own sake, cut him off and dont contribute to the disaster...unless its pct related

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i already told him that im not helping him with shit unless its clomid, nolva or hcg! Or rips!

I just hope that after reading this thread it might sink in, "hey dam maybe my boy isnt over exagerating shit and i should listen to him!"

he is a big dummie, he did like three months of deca too and was complaining about deca dick! I got him a bottle of viagra and explained to him that deca and tren is not like every other steroid, you need to take something for prolactic sides as well as an ai, he didnt do either.

Hopefully after reading this we will listen and wisen up.

Damn, guess he doesn't want kids

Christosterone said:

Damn, guess he doesn't want kids

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Or pussy either .....

63Vette said:

Or pussy either .....

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you know, libido is a funny thing. there was a time when i didn't take test with my cycle. my libido waned, and I didn't notice that i let a month go by without taking care of my woman. She noticed it though. but didn't say anything for another month. Finally she did say something (she had no idea i was cycling) right around the time i was coming off.

yeah, libido is a damn funny thing. when it's gone, you are the last one to notice it aint there anymore. It causes a shit storm if she don't know what's going on!

I have no patience for dumbasses If he wont listen fuck him